Sean Merwin

Okay. So the Cyclops in the 2014 Monster Manual, there was just Cyclops. And in the preview that we got, there were two Cyclopses, Cyclopai, Cyclopace. There was the... Help me out. The Sentry is the basic one, and then the Oracle was the sort of advanced one. I'm going from memory here, but I think that was that. So any special things that you noticed about that, Teos?

Okay. So the Cyclops in the 2014 Monster Manual, there was just Cyclops. And in the preview that we got, there were two Cyclopses, Cyclopai, Cyclopace. There was the... Help me out. The Sentry is the basic one, and then the Oracle was the sort of advanced one. I'm going from memory here, but I think that was that. So any special things that you noticed about that, Teos?

Right. You think of the Odyssey.

Right. You think of the Odyssey.

The only thing I was going to look and I didn't get a chance was the Theros book. The Greek-inspired book. I'm wondering, I think there were Cyclopes in that, and I don't know if they were sort of updated versions of this.

The only thing I was going to look and I didn't get a chance was the Theros book. The Greek-inspired book. I'm wondering, I think there were Cyclopes in that, and I don't know if they were sort of updated versions of this.

Well, yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

Well, yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah. Yeah. So, so this was my take on that.

Yeah. Yeah. So, so this was my take on that.

First of all, I'm fine with both. I'm actually fine with the old Cyclops and I'm fine with the new Cyclops. For me, what's most important is the, If it's going to have lore, make that lore count. And if it's going to have special, unique physical features, make those count. So what's the thing you think of when you think of Cyclops, like you said? You think of the one eye.

First of all, I'm fine with both. I'm actually fine with the old Cyclops and I'm fine with the new Cyclops. For me, what's most important is the, If it's going to have lore, make that lore count. And if it's going to have special, unique physical features, make those count. So what's the thing you think of when you think of Cyclops, like you said? You think of the one eye.

So that one eye needs to have a game impact. In 2014, that game impact was a negative. It was a negative. It was poor depth perception. And how did that show off in play? They had disadvantage on ranged attacks of over 30 feet. So they couldn't throw the rock well over 30 feet. How often were you throwing rocks with your cycle base in 2014? I hope maybe only once.

So that one eye needs to have a game impact. In 2014, that game impact was a negative. It was a negative. It was poor depth perception. And how did that show off in play? They had disadvantage on ranged attacks of over 30 feet. So they couldn't throw the rock well over 30 feet. How often were you throwing rocks with your cycle base in 2014? I hope maybe only once.

And even then, unless you made a big deal about it as the game master, oh, look, you're far away, and he's squinting, trying to figure out where you are. I have disadvantage. Whee! And you'd roll two dice. That's fine, but it doesn't sort of live up to that.

And even then, unless you made a big deal about it as the game master, oh, look, you're far away, and he's squinting, trying to figure out where you are. I have disadvantage. Whee! And you'd roll two dice. That's fine, but it doesn't sort of live up to that.

You can play it up if you set up a very specific scenario. Absolutely. My big issue, and it's not just with the Cyclops, it's with all of these sort of mythological or story-focused monsters from various worlds and lore. If I'm running a game for all new players who are even fairly well-read in mythology, I say, and you approach the temple and there's a guard standing there, it's a cyclops.

You can play it up if you set up a very specific scenario. Absolutely. My big issue, and it's not just with the Cyclops, it's with all of these sort of mythological or story-focused monsters from various worlds and lore. If I'm running a game for all new players who are even fairly well-read in mythology, I say, and you approach the temple and there's a guard standing there, it's a cyclops.

What's the first thing they're going to try to do? They're going to try to shoot its eye out, right? Oh, gotcha.

What's the first thing they're going to try to do? They're going to try to shoot its eye out, right? Oh, gotcha.