Sean Rameswaram

You know, it's interesting that you bring up the anti-vax conversation, because I do feel like conversations around raw milk tend to mirror some of the conversations I've had about vaccines, where like...

People are just like, oh, why should I go get this vaccine?

There's no measles around.

Or, I mean, there kind of is measles more now.

But I do think that people often forget how many people used to die from things like the measles and polio and all sorts of preventable diseases.

Like, vaccines have saved at least 100 million lives.

And something I learned from your episode is that before pasteurization happened,

You know, milk could lead to these tuberculosis outbreaks and typhoid outbreaks.

Yeah.

Tens of thousands of people, mostly children, used to die from drinking milk.

Do you think people just don't remember what things used to be like or they don't want to think about what things used to be like and they're just taking for granted all of these incredible scientific achievements we've had to get us to the place where we are now?

It's very clear that we've firmly entered the I'll do my own research era, the anti-establishment, anti-convention, anti-big pharma, whatever it might be.

And for a multitude of reasons that I don't want to dunk on necessarily.

Some of it's silly, but some of it's not.

I mean, I think that's what Maha has really suggested that, well, he kind of has a point about food dyes.

Sure.

Maybe.

Yeah.

Why not?

You know, does he have a point about vaccines?