Sean Rameswaram

And is he like invested in cod liver oil or something? Why is he hawking that in particular?

Got it. So it's a treatment, but it's not preventative.

Got it. So it's a treatment, but it's not preventative.

Got it. So it's a treatment, but it's not preventative.

Okay, so a bit of a mixed bag from RFK. On one hand, he's admitting that vaccines can be helpful, showing a little personal growth there, but also doing the vintage routine of here's a bunch of natural homeopathic style solutions that actually are disinformation.

Okay, so a bit of a mixed bag from RFK. On one hand, he's admitting that vaccines can be helpful, showing a little personal growth there, but also doing the vintage routine of here's a bunch of natural homeopathic style solutions that actually are disinformation.

Okay, so a bit of a mixed bag from RFK. On one hand, he's admitting that vaccines can be helpful, showing a little personal growth there, but also doing the vintage routine of here's a bunch of natural homeopathic style solutions that actually are disinformation.

Why isn't he saying that? Seems so easy.

Why isn't he saying that? Seems so easy.

Why isn't he saying that? Seems so easy.

And he's got a lot of allies on that front, including people in this community who believe that these vaccines are a personal choice, if not straight up harmful.

And he's got a lot of allies on that front, including people in this community who believe that these vaccines are a personal choice, if not straight up harmful.

And he's got a lot of allies on that front, including people in this community who believe that these vaccines are a personal choice, if not straight up harmful.

Now that these communities kind of have an ally at the literal top of health and human services, do we know if anti-vax or vaccine skepticism is increasing in the United States at this point, or is it still too early to tell?

Now that these communities kind of have an ally at the literal top of health and human services, do we know if anti-vax or vaccine skepticism is increasing in the United States at this point, or is it still too early to tell?

Now that these communities kind of have an ally at the literal top of health and human services, do we know if anti-vax or vaccine skepticism is increasing in the United States at this point, or is it still too early to tell?

This measles situation in West Texas with this Mennonite community feels like an early test of RFK's leadership. This outsider now being not only on the inside, but literally in charge. What does it tell us about what his objectives are and what his leadership might look like as we approach other epidemics and who knows, maybe a pandemic?

This measles situation in West Texas with this Mennonite community feels like an early test of RFK's leadership. This outsider now being not only on the inside, but literally in charge. What does it tell us about what his objectives are and what his leadership might look like as we approach other epidemics and who knows, maybe a pandemic?

This measles situation in West Texas with this Mennonite community feels like an early test of RFK's leadership. This outsider now being not only on the inside, but literally in charge. What does it tell us about what his objectives are and what his leadership might look like as we approach other epidemics and who knows, maybe a pandemic?

Kira Butler, MotherJones.com. Thank you, Mother. Abhishek Artsy produced today's show. Amina Alsadi edited. Andrea Kristen's daughter and Patrick Boyd mixed. Laura Bullard checked the facts. This is Today Explained.