Sean Rameswaram

And I think we have a problem with, like, anecdotal experience in this country with distrust of big ag, big pharma, big everything, and that's sometimes leading people to make...

some unfortunate choices.

And I mean, a distrust also of scientific institutions that are saying what is safe and what isn't safe and a reliance on your friend telling you what's safe.

Yes.

Does that mean you should never, ever, ever drink raw milk if you're at some beautiful farm in the south of France and a farmer says, here's a milkshake we just made fresh for you because you're from America and you like that kind of thing?

Like, no, it's probably fine.

It's probably fine.

That feels to me like he's trying to poison you somehow.

Oh, maybe so.

Right, right, right.

Anyway, that doesn't mean we should just, you know, make it easier for the entire country to drink raw milk or just remove all the guardrails.

Well, it's a very interesting discussion.

Your episode is great.

I love the way that you talk to people on all parts of this issue.

So we're going to play it for our listeners.

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Today, explained from Vox, Sean Ramos from here at the historic Old Town Farmer's Market in Alexandria, Virginia, on a quest to find something that is not totally legal here across these United States, raw milk.