Sean Spicer

Because I think there's got to be a third issue, which is some staffer did it. Because if you're going to break into somebody's phone, are you really going to add Jeffrey Goldberg to the chain? I mean, I've got a list of people I'd rather add to a chain if I'm snooping or doing something than Jeffrey Goldberg.

Can't you believe that some staffer at some point added, I mean, I said that it didn't though.

Can't you believe that some staffer at some point added, I mean, I said that it didn't though.

No, no, no. But here's the way I look at this. I have a belief, and I haven't asked the president this, but knowing the president's – his view of Jeffrey Goldberg, I think that's what pisses him off the most. And of all people that you did this to – so if you have to explain it to him – And you're talking to Donald Trump and you say, Mr. President, here's what happened. And I don't know why.

No, no, no. But here's the way I look at this. I have a belief, and I haven't asked the president this, but knowing the president's – his view of Jeffrey Goldberg, I think that's what pisses him off the most. And of all people that you did this to – so if you have to explain it to him – And you're talking to Donald Trump and you say, Mr. President, here's what happened. And I don't know why.

And so here's my answer. I'm going to get the best technical mind to explain. That's your way of at least being like, hey, I'm on it.

And so here's my answer. I'm going to get the best technical mind to explain. That's your way of at least being like, hey, I'm on it.

I don't think so. Not yet. I mean, I think the bigger question right now, one, is about the discussion that we're having. What is the government doing to find out how this got added? Because that seems to be now the big question. The second is, I think one of the issues that we need to also understand is, were these officials on their government phones or their personal phones?

I don't think so. Not yet. I mean, I think the bigger question right now, one, is about the discussion that we're having. What is the government doing to find out how this got added? Because that seems to be now the big question. The second is, I think one of the issues that we need to also understand is, were these officials on their government phones or their personal phones?

And that's what I thought would probably be coming out right off the bat.

And that's what I thought would probably be coming out right off the bat.

Charlie, can I make a quick point? Because this goes back to the point you're making. If it was on a government phone, I think that raises the question about why Jeffrey Goldberg was in there. In a very different way than if it was on Waltz's personal phone, which he's probably had for 10 or 15 years or whatever he had during his tenure as a member of Congress.

Charlie, can I make a quick point? Because this goes back to the point you're making. If it was on a government phone, I think that raises the question about why Jeffrey Goldberg was in there. In a very different way than if it was on Waltz's personal phone, which he's probably had for 10 or 15 years or whatever he had during his tenure as a member of Congress.

If it's on his government phone, that brings up a whole new set of questions as to how Jeffrey Goldberg was able to be added. Because you can only add certain people that you would have assumed on a government phone that you had pre-populated.

If it's on his government phone, that brings up a whole new set of questions as to how Jeffrey Goldberg was able to be added. Because you can only add certain people that you would have assumed on a government phone that you had pre-populated.

So I'm going to tell you this right now. I don't think I know, to your point. Like, if you went to the president, and I say this as a guy who had to do that, that if you go to the president and say, Mr. President, I screwed up, and I'm going to go fix it because I serve at your pleasure, he is much more understanding than I think if you dig a hole and then have to go back to him.

So I'm going to tell you this right now. I don't think I know, to your point. Like, if you went to the president, and I say this as a guy who had to do that, that if you go to the president and say, Mr. President, I screwed up, and I'm going to go fix it because I serve at your pleasure, he is much more understanding than I think if you dig a hole and then have to go back to him.

So I hope to God, for the sake of Mike Walz, who I have the utmost respect for, that this is what happened. Because if you have to go back to the president and say, all right, let me tell you what really happened. You know, he was there. That that's going to get a lot worse. And and here's the just from a PR standpoint.

So I hope to God, for the sake of Mike Walz, who I have the utmost respect for, that this is what happened. Because if you have to go back to the president and say, all right, let me tell you what really happened. You know, he was there. That that's going to get a lot worse. And and here's the just from a PR standpoint.

And I made this point on the morning meeting this morning that I have on my YouTube channel every morning. That's look in a crisis. It will only last about... It's like a fire. After about 48 hours, if there's no new oxygen, it dies. The only way a crisis is perpetuated is if more oxygen comes into the room. And to your point, every time that you speak, you go out there and if your story...