Sean Stone

But the point is that this is an issue in the psychology of the Arab world, right? the Crusades coming back to haunt them. I think that's a big issue and people don't look at it that way because they think of it as Jewish versus Muslim. And I think it's much deeper because as you know, the Jews and Muslims have gotten along.

The Jews used to go to the Muslim countries when they were persecuted by the Catholics. When they were persecuted in Spain, the Jews and Muslims both were persecuted in Spain and kicked out by Ferdinand and Isabel in 1495, 1492 when Columbus was sailing. They kicked the Jews and the Muslims out of Spain at that time. They kicked them out of, as you know, across Europe. Many times they purged them.

The Jews used to go to the Muslim countries when they were persecuted by the Catholics. When they were persecuted in Spain, the Jews and Muslims both were persecuted in Spain and kicked out by Ferdinand and Isabel in 1495, 1492 when Columbus was sailing. They kicked the Jews and the Muslims out of Spain at that time. They kicked them out of, as you know, across Europe. Many times they purged them.

They would go to Muslim countries, Jews would. And they all lived together side by side in Palestine and obviously in Turkey and other countries. So it wasn't a Jewish-Muslim thing. I think this is a West versus East thing very much.

They would go to Muslim countries, Jews would. And they all lived together side by side in Palestine and obviously in Turkey and other countries. So it wasn't a Jewish-Muslim thing. I think this is a West versus East thing very much.

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Epstein was apparently Mossad and CIA, right? I had his brother on our podcast for a few hours, yeah. Does he think that he was both?

Epstein was apparently Mossad and CIA, right? I had his brother on our podcast for a few hours, yeah. Does he think that he was both?

Found dead. Yeah. Were you reading that? He was found dead in his apartment.

Found dead. Yeah. Were you reading that? He was found dead in his apartment.

Exactly. It's both private and public. I mean, look at... We just saw the Jeff Sachs interview. Today, all these newspapers are saying Jeffrey Sands is anti-Semitic conspiracy theories for saying that Israel's basically foreign policy is what we're running in the Middle East, which is pretty evident. I don't think that's anti-Semitic to say that.

Exactly. It's both private and public. I mean, look at... We just saw the Jeff Sachs interview. Today, all these newspapers are saying Jeffrey Sands is anti-Semitic conspiracy theories for saying that Israel's basically foreign policy is what we're running in the Middle East, which is pretty evident. I don't think that's anti-Semitic to say that.

The ghost of Kiev was still riding high. And then that was a CIA story, remember? And all these different things.

The ghost of Kiev was still riding high. And then that was a CIA story, remember? And all these different things.

Uganda raid against... They made a movie about it. What was it called? Yeah, I don't remember the film.

Uganda raid against... They made a movie about it. What was it called? Yeah, I don't remember the film.

We think also about this policy shift. It wasn't like it was always adamantly whatever Israel wants until 2001. That's when the neocons take over. That's when the 9-11 justifies...

We think also about this policy shift. It wasn't like it was always adamantly whatever Israel wants until 2001. That's when the neocons take over. That's when the 9-11 justifies...

all these wars in the middle east so-called justifies obviously what did it do did it bring benefit to the american people did it bring stabilize anything no we destabilize that region but as i said it's been all israel policy and mostly in netanyahu policy and netanyahu is closer to hamas i mean that's what's really curious you know when you look at the history that as you know