Sean Williams

So they work in logging, which is the typical one out in the Russian Far East, which if people don't know, Russia is way big and it has a bunch of forests out in the middle of nowhere near Japan. which is crazy how huge Russia is. So the North Koreans use these false laborers, basically like nearly all of their wage goes back into the state and into the coffers of the dictatorship.

And so that continues. And then in the 1990s and the midnight 90s, especially a kind of like the breaking point for a lot of things in North Korea, you've got Kim Il-sung dies, his son, Kim Jong-il, who people know from team America and other funny things. Um, He basically leads the country through this insanely devastating famine. Crops fail. Many people die.

And so that continues. And then in the 1990s and the midnight 90s, especially a kind of like the breaking point for a lot of things in North Korea, you've got Kim Il-sung dies, his son, Kim Jong-il, who people know from team America and other funny things. Um, He basically leads the country through this insanely devastating famine. Crops fail. Many people die.

And so that continues. And then in the 1990s and the midnight 90s, especially a kind of like the breaking point for a lot of things in North Korea, you've got Kim Il-sung dies, his son, Kim Jong-il, who people know from team America and other funny things. Um, He basically leads the country through this insanely devastating famine. Crops fail. Many people die.

I mean, it's only a country of what, like 24, 25 million people. And I think several million people die. And then they ramp up this illicit economy to try and just claw back anything like grain production. Absolutely anything they can get their hands on, they will. And that's when this illicit activity, including the labor stuff, just really goes crazy.

I mean, it's only a country of what, like 24, 25 million people. And I think several million people die. And then they ramp up this illicit economy to try and just claw back anything like grain production. Absolutely anything they can get their hands on, they will. And that's when this illicit activity, including the labor stuff, just really goes crazy.

I mean, it's only a country of what, like 24, 25 million people. And I think several million people die. And then they ramp up this illicit economy to try and just claw back anything like grain production. Absolutely anything they can get their hands on, they will. And that's when this illicit activity, including the labor stuff, just really goes crazy.

And so, like, today you even see North Korea has laborers. I think it's like... between 100,000 and 200,000 North Koreans working abroad these days. They're still in the logging camps out in the far east of Russia, all over the border. There's some people working in China. I think there was like a Vice documentary a few years ago where someone followed them all the way to western Poland.

And so, like, today you even see North Korea has laborers. I think it's like... between 100,000 and 200,000 North Koreans working abroad these days. They're still in the logging camps out in the far east of Russia, all over the border. There's some people working in China. I think there was like a Vice documentary a few years ago where someone followed them all the way to western Poland.

And so, like, today you even see North Korea has laborers. I think it's like... between 100,000 and 200,000 North Koreans working abroad these days. They're still in the logging camps out in the far east of Russia, all over the border. There's some people working in China. I think there was like a Vice documentary a few years ago where someone followed them all the way to western Poland.

You can do whatever you want. It was just crazy to me. When you hear the stories of the guys who defect from the North as well, like the way that they describe Juche or this cult of personalities, like there is no God, right? There are Kims. So you serve them and serving them is like a kind of semi-religious, just an incredible honor, right?

You can do whatever you want. It was just crazy to me. When you hear the stories of the guys who defect from the North as well, like the way that they describe Juche or this cult of personalities, like there is no God, right? There are Kims. So you serve them and serving them is like a kind of semi-religious, just an incredible honor, right?

You can do whatever you want. It was just crazy to me. When you hear the stories of the guys who defect from the North as well, like the way that they describe Juche or this cult of personalities, like there is no God, right? There are Kims. So you serve them and serving them is like a kind of semi-religious, just an incredible honor, right?

So people are out there laboring in the worst conditions imaginable on Earth. And this guy with no protection, I mean, it must cost a dollar to protect him, but that's too much for the Polish woman. And they're doing it because there is a religious belief that the country is the Kims. I met a guy actually in Seoul a few months ago and he was a defector.

So people are out there laboring in the worst conditions imaginable on Earth. And this guy with no protection, I mean, it must cost a dollar to protect him, but that's too much for the Polish woman. And they're doing it because there is a religious belief that the country is the Kims. I met a guy actually in Seoul a few months ago and he was a defector.

So people are out there laboring in the worst conditions imaginable on Earth. And this guy with no protection, I mean, it must cost a dollar to protect him, but that's too much for the Polish woman. And they're doing it because there is a religious belief that the country is the Kims. I met a guy actually in Seoul a few months ago and he was a defector.

And the way that he described, he'd been pretty high up in the Politburo. He'd been a propagandist. Now he works at one of those radio stations that broadcast stuff across the border like Kim Jong-un's a dick, basically, over and over again.

And the way that he described, he'd been pretty high up in the Politburo. He'd been a propagandist. Now he works at one of those radio stations that broadcast stuff across the border like Kim Jong-un's a dick, basically, over and over again.

And the way that he described, he'd been pretty high up in the Politburo. He'd been a propagandist. Now he works at one of those radio stations that broadcast stuff across the border like Kim Jong-un's a dick, basically, over and over again.

Yeah. And the way that he described it was I didn't know that religion exists or anything like philosophy existed. There was one philosophy that was the Kims. And so anything you do, therefore, for them, no matter what you go through is good, including starvation and forced labor and trafficking drugs and whatever. I mean, I used to live in Berlin. I've lived in Berlin for many years.