Sen. Mike Lee

Following back to our example from the civil rights act of 1964, they were 32 votes shy of cloture.

When the bill arrived from the house of representatives in March of 1964, they spent 60 days debating it.

And lo and behold,

Those people who were opposed to it, mostly Democrats, by the way, they started to negotiate after a few weeks of this.

And they were eventually able to negotiate some changes that allowed them to save enough face that they were able to and willing to vote for cloture at the end of the process.

And as a result, that bill passed.

This is one of those moments.

I don't want to compare the two bills.

They're different bills, but this one should be way easier to pass than that one.

It's simpler.

It's way more popular than that one.

Nobody's done everything that they can until they have gone through the steps that we've described.

And again, I don't care what I want to call it.

If he doesn't like calling it a talking filibuster, I really could not care less.

What I care about is getting this damn bill on the floor.

debating it and debating it for a long time.

I mean, two weeks ought to be the bare minimum and then reassess at that point where we are and what we need to do to keep the momentum going and what we need to do to bring, keep bringing about consensus.

But the one thing we cannot do is bring it to the floor and then say, Oh gee, we're tired.

Um, we want to take a recess.

It's time for recess.