Senator Brian Schatz

Right.

And so when Gavin Newsom steps up, when the governor of Oregon steps up, when the governor of Illinois steps up, when litigation succeeds, when people are out there very peacefully,

and smartly and in a disciplined way on the streets, that matters.

When people get involved in the electoral process, that matters.

When we do whatever we can in the legislative context, federally, all of that matters.

So it's a fine line between

being appropriately alarmed as to what they are trying to do, but not catastrophizing to the point where we act like we are already powerless and we have already lost.

We have not already lost.

And so the tendency for people who are worried and are worried that others aren't sufficiently worried is to talk like we are already Belarus.

We are not already Belarus.

We are a functioning democracy.

And Donald Trump wants to take that away from us.

And our job is to stop him from doing that.

But that is a different frame of mind than we're all cooked.

We are not all cooked.

I think the rally on October 18th is going to be very important for the country to see peaceful, mainstream folks across the country to say, we're not a monarchy.

We're still in charge of our own government.

I am from the best place.

I am from the best place.

I am from the best place.