Senator Brian Schatz

And I think now they have become an arm substantially of the Netanyahu government.

And, um, I try to maintain a dialogue.

I haven't raised a penny, um, from AIPAC affiliated folks, um, uh, since my very first race, uh,

And after the JCPOA, I maintain a functional relationship in terms of foreign policy where I have a dialogue when necessary.

But I just said no thank you to the fundraising side.

But I just think they have lost the plot.

And I've told them that directly.

I have told them that this is not making Israelis safe.

This is not making Israel safe.

And this is not making Jews in the diaspora safe.

And so, you know, that's my view of that as that organization.

And I'm hoping, just like any organization, that they see the error in their ways.

But I'm not all that hopeful.

I'm super concerned.

I think we need to be vigilant and we need to recognize a regime change war when we see one.

There's a tendency because of history to think regime change wars only happen in the Middle East.

And so the fact that this is happening sort of in our hemisphere, I think is it's taking a little longer for people to clock like, wait, what the hell are they doing here?

What evidence do they have and under what authorities?

And by the way, what is the strategic purpose of any of that?

And if they're doing this on the covert side as well as on the DOD side, then look, there should be bipartisan opposition to any regime change.