Senator Chris Murphy

And I've also – I read one article where it's like the way they wrote it was so disingenuous. It's like the California – Supreme Court has already had reservations. That's not true. That is absolutely not true. It's like this drives me crazy. It drives me crazy.

Yeah. I mean, look, it's like,

Yeah. I mean, look, it's like,

Yeah. I mean, look, it's like,

with with a cape on another thing to keep in mind on that is that remember all the neighbors that came out because because his dog was running around remember this this is 9 30 on christmas christmas day so this is a like every neighbor on that street it seems like saw their dog remember they all came forward and or heard scott talking about how you went golfing so there are people out and about this is not this didn't happen at three o'clock in the morning

with with a cape on another thing to keep in mind on that is that remember all the neighbors that came out because because his dog was running around remember this this is 9 30 on christmas christmas day so this is a like every neighbor on that street it seems like saw their dog remember they all came forward and or heard scott talking about how you went golfing so there are people out and about this is not this didn't happen at three o'clock in the morning

with with a cape on another thing to keep in mind on that is that remember all the neighbors that came out because because his dog was running around remember this this is 9 30 on christmas christmas day so this is a like every neighbor on that street it seems like saw their dog remember they all came forward and or heard scott talking about how you went golfing so there are people out and about this is not this didn't happen at three o'clock in the morning

So, so when everybody sees the dog, right. And literally, and one of the neighbors actually, it was seen by multiple neighbors that it was important for establishing the timeline. And one of the neighbors actually went and put the dog in the backyard with them. And it was the muddy leash and all that. It was a golden retriever. And we can all picture that.

So, so when everybody sees the dog, right. And literally, and one of the neighbors actually, it was seen by multiple neighbors that it was important for establishing the timeline. And one of the neighbors actually went and put the dog in the backyard with them. And it was the muddy leash and all that. It was a golden retriever. And we can all picture that.

So, so when everybody sees the dog, right. And literally, and one of the neighbors actually, it was seen by multiple neighbors that it was important for establishing the timeline. And one of the neighbors actually went and put the dog in the backyard with them. And it was the muddy leash and all that. It was a golden retriever. And we can all picture that.

So it's like, everybody sees the dog, but nobody sees Lacey getting forced into a van on their street on Christmas day at nine 30 in the morning when everybody's out and about, you know what I mean? Like,

So it's like, everybody sees the dog, but nobody sees Lacey getting forced into a van on their street on Christmas day at nine 30 in the morning when everybody's out and about, you know what I mean? Like,

So it's like, everybody sees the dog, but nobody sees Lacey getting forced into a van on their street on Christmas day at nine 30 in the morning when everybody's out and about, you know what I mean? Like,

are we really having this conversation not you and me but like seeing some good publicly like okay so you've got three guys in the van coming through like are they ninjas are they invisible you know like you know and so some dude um is is interviewed 20 years later who said yeah well i heard a rumor in jail which and this is another thing that kind of drives me crazy sorry to rant here but

are we really having this conversation not you and me but like seeing some good publicly like okay so you've got three guys in the van coming through like are they ninjas are they invisible you know like you know and so some dude um is is interviewed 20 years later who said yeah well i heard a rumor in jail which and this is another thing that kind of drives me crazy sorry to rant here but

are we really having this conversation not you and me but like seeing some good publicly like okay so you've got three guys in the van coming through like are they ninjas are they invisible you know like you know and so some dude um is is interviewed 20 years later who said yeah well i heard a rumor in jail which and this is another thing that kind of drives me crazy sorry to rant here but

Jailhouse informants have are bad. Right. Like I thought I thought rumors in jail, we weren't supposed to rely on them. And I look, I never used a jailhouse informant in my entire career because of all the inherent problems with a criminal who's going to try to throw somebody else under the bus and say what they heard. Like they're inherently unreliable witnesses.

Jailhouse informants have are bad. Right. Like I thought I thought rumors in jail, we weren't supposed to rely on them. And I look, I never used a jailhouse informant in my entire career because of all the inherent problems with a criminal who's going to try to throw somebody else under the bus and say what they heard. Like they're inherently unreliable witnesses.

Jailhouse informants have are bad. Right. Like I thought I thought rumors in jail, we weren't supposed to rely on them. And I look, I never used a jailhouse informant in my entire career because of all the inherent problems with a criminal who's going to try to throw somebody else under the bus and say what they heard. Like they're inherently unreliable witnesses.

And that's something that I have to agree with a lot of public defenders about. Like that was something that there was a big scandal in Orange County about it, like Like they're inherently unreliable. But now there's a rumor in a jail and this means everything. This is the this is the key to the whole thing. Look, I know Mark Terry goes very well. Mark and I go way back. We did cases together.