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You know, it's when you put it together, every one of these cases, Megan, is like a collage. You know, each piece, it's like, where does this fit in the picture? And sometimes like a mattress down the street, it probably has no part of it in any way. But But when you start putting little pieces together, you start to see the big picture.
You know, it's when you put it together, every one of these cases, Megan, is like a collage. You know, each piece, it's like, where does this fit in the picture? And sometimes like a mattress down the street, it probably has no part of it in any way. But But when you start putting little pieces together, you start to see the big picture.
You know, it's when you put it together, every one of these cases, Megan, is like a collage. You know, each piece, it's like, where does this fit in the picture? And sometimes like a mattress down the street, it probably has no part of it in any way. But But when you start putting little pieces together, you start to see the big picture.
And here, you know, you've got Amber Frey saying his wife is already dead. He buys the boat two weeks before he's actually in the marina, you know, in this in this place and left her a voicemail saying, hey, beautiful, I'm back from the marina, which is also odd because he left his house in where they live, which is not super close to the marina. And and he leaves it 90 miles away.
And here, you know, you've got Amber Frey saying his wife is already dead. He buys the boat two weeks before he's actually in the marina, you know, in this in this place and left her a voicemail saying, hey, beautiful, I'm back from the marina, which is also odd because he left his house in where they live, which is not super close to the marina. And and he leaves it 90 miles away.
And here, you know, you've got Amber Frey saying his wife is already dead. He buys the boat two weeks before he's actually in the marina, you know, in this in this place and left her a voicemail saying, hey, beautiful, I'm back from the marina, which is also odd because he left his house in where they live, which is not super close to the marina. And and he leaves it 90 miles away.
It's 90 miles away and he's calling her at 2.30. He leaves at 9.30. He's calling her at 2.30 saying, hey, beautiful, I'm on my way back. So he goes fishing by himself on Christmas Day. And how much time is there to launch a boat that he probably isn't that skilled with at that point? He goes and fishes for 30 minutes.
It's 90 miles away and he's calling her at 2.30. He leaves at 9.30. He's calling her at 2.30 saying, hey, beautiful, I'm on my way back. So he goes fishing by himself on Christmas Day. And how much time is there to launch a boat that he probably isn't that skilled with at that point? He goes and fishes for 30 minutes.
It's 90 miles away and he's calling her at 2.30. He leaves at 9.30. He's calling her at 2.30 saying, hey, beautiful, I'm on my way back. So he goes fishing by himself on Christmas Day. And how much time is there to launch a boat that he probably isn't that skilled with at that point? He goes and fishes for 30 minutes.
Give me a break. There's so many problems with that. And then when he's arrested, he's in San Diego. He's changed his appearance. He's got $15,000 in cash and he's got survival gear in a car and he's got two different IDs. He's in possession of his brother's ID. Like, I mean, those are the types of things.
Give me a break. There's so many problems with that. And then when he's arrested, he's in San Diego. He's changed his appearance. He's got $15,000 in cash and he's got survival gear in a car and he's got two different IDs. He's in possession of his brother's ID. Like, I mean, those are the types of things.
Give me a break. There's so many problems with that. And then when he's arrested, he's in San Diego. He's changed his appearance. He's got $15,000 in cash and he's got survival gear in a car and he's got two different IDs. He's in possession of his brother's ID. Like, I mean, those are the types of things.
Each one of those things is something that a jury gets to weigh and consider and on determining whether or not he's the guy. And so you have these there's always a burglary down the street. There's always some, somebody got, okay.
Each one of those things is something that a jury gets to weigh and consider and on determining whether or not he's the guy. And so you have these there's always a burglary down the street. There's always some, somebody got, okay.
Each one of those things is something that a jury gets to weigh and consider and on determining whether or not he's the guy. And so you have these there's always a burglary down the street. There's always some, somebody got, okay.
Yeah. Okay. So number one, passionate belief, Megan. And look, we see this all the time. We see this everywhere. Politically in our country, on both sides, passionate belief has no necessary connection to the truth. OK, just doesn't like you can you can have a sister in law who's banging the drum and absolutely. I'm sure she personally believes this, but that doesn't equal evidence. OK, so.
Yeah. Okay. So number one, passionate belief, Megan. And look, we see this all the time. We see this everywhere. Politically in our country, on both sides, passionate belief has no necessary connection to the truth. OK, just doesn't like you can you can have a sister in law who's banging the drum and absolutely. I'm sure she personally believes this, but that doesn't equal evidence. OK, so.
Yeah. Okay. So number one, passionate belief, Megan. And look, we see this all the time. We see this everywhere. Politically in our country, on both sides, passionate belief has no necessary connection to the truth. OK, just doesn't like you can you can have a sister in law who's banging the drum and absolutely. I'm sure she personally believes this, but that doesn't equal evidence. OK, so.
And it's also very important to remember that Lacey Peterson and, you know, again, I don't want to age myself here, but I remember this case very well when it happened, as I'm sure you do, too. You're way younger than me, Megan. But look, she was missing. OK, and when it comes when you prosecute cases like this, when somebody is missing before the body is found, those are the ones that that get.
And it's also very important to remember that Lacey Peterson and, you know, again, I don't want to age myself here, but I remember this case very well when it happened, as I'm sure you do, too. You're way younger than me, Megan. But look, she was missing. OK, and when it comes when you prosecute cases like this, when somebody is missing before the body is found, those are the ones that that get.