Senator Chris Murphy

are we really having this conversation not you and me but like seeing some good publicly like okay so you've got three guys in the van coming through like are they ninjas are they invisible you know like you know and so some dude um is is interviewed 20 years later who said yeah well i heard a rumor in jail which and this is another thing that kind of drives me crazy sorry to rant here but

Jailhouse informants have are bad. Right. Like I thought I thought rumors in jail, we weren't supposed to rely on them. And I look, I never used a jailhouse informant in my entire career because of all the inherent problems with a criminal who's going to try to throw somebody else under the bus and say what they heard. Like they're inherently unreliable witnesses.

Jailhouse informants have are bad. Right. Like I thought I thought rumors in jail, we weren't supposed to rely on them. And I look, I never used a jailhouse informant in my entire career because of all the inherent problems with a criminal who's going to try to throw somebody else under the bus and say what they heard. Like they're inherently unreliable witnesses.

Jailhouse informants have are bad. Right. Like I thought I thought rumors in jail, we weren't supposed to rely on them. And I look, I never used a jailhouse informant in my entire career because of all the inherent problems with a criminal who's going to try to throw somebody else under the bus and say what they heard. Like they're inherently unreliable witnesses.

And that's something that I have to agree with a lot of public defenders about. Like that was something that there was a big scandal in Orange County about it, like Like they're inherently unreliable. But now there's a rumor in a jail and this means everything. This is the this is the key to the whole thing. Look, I know Mark Terry goes very well. Mark and I go way back. We did cases together.

And that's something that I have to agree with a lot of public defenders about. Like that was something that there was a big scandal in Orange County about it, like Like they're inherently unreliable. But now there's a rumor in a jail and this means everything. This is the this is the key to the whole thing. Look, I know Mark Terry goes very well. Mark and I go way back. We did cases together.

And that's something that I have to agree with a lot of public defenders about. Like that was something that there was a big scandal in Orange County about it, like Like they're inherently unreliable. But now there's a rumor in a jail and this means everything. This is the this is the key to the whole thing. Look, I know Mark Terry goes very well. Mark and I go way back. We did cases together.

And I got to say, Mark is an outstanding lawyer. And Scott Peterson had him as a trial lawyer. And yeah, like I. Yes, absolutely. This is called Brady evidence. Like you want the defense to have everything. And if the prosecution sat on that or didn't provide it, that's an issue under Brady for potential.

And I got to say, Mark is an outstanding lawyer. And Scott Peterson had him as a trial lawyer. And yeah, like I. Yes, absolutely. This is called Brady evidence. Like you want the defense to have everything. And if the prosecution sat on that or didn't provide it, that's an issue under Brady for potential.

And I got to say, Mark is an outstanding lawyer. And Scott Peterson had him as a trial lawyer. And yeah, like I. Yes, absolutely. This is called Brady evidence. Like you want the defense to have everything. And if the prosecution sat on that or didn't provide it, that's an issue under Brady for potential.

Absolutely. And they should. And they should. But but there are also limits there. There have to be rational limits to what is what is provided to them. It's like, all right, so let me ask you that.

Absolutely. And they should. And they should. But but there are also limits there. There have to be rational limits to what is what is provided to them. It's like, all right, so let me ask you that.

Absolutely. And they should. And they should. But but there are also limits there. There have to be rational limits to what is what is provided to them. It's like, all right, so let me ask you that.

They should turn that over. They should. Yep. They should turn that over. And I don't know. I don't know. You know, part of this is. We've got allegations from essentially a family member and from one side here. So I don't know the reasons. I haven't read that report. If there's something like that, yeah, they should turn that over.

They should turn that over. They should. Yep. They should turn that over. And I don't know. I don't know. You know, part of this is. We've got allegations from essentially a family member and from one side here. So I don't know the reasons. I haven't read that report. If there's something like that, yeah, they should turn that over.

They should turn that over. They should. Yep. They should turn that over. And I don't know. I don't know. You know, part of this is. We've got allegations from essentially a family member and from one side here. So I don't know the reasons. I haven't read that report. If there's something like that, yeah, they should turn that over.

When I went through training, I had a guy that – Chris Evans was his name. He's now a superior court judge. He trained us when we were baby DAs, and his philosophy on discovery is give the defense absolutely everything and then just beat them with it. So the prosecution shouldn't be – they shouldn't be deciding what's relevant or not. They should just be turning it all over.

When I went through training, I had a guy that – Chris Evans was his name. He's now a superior court judge. He trained us when we were baby DAs, and his philosophy on discovery is give the defense absolutely everything and then just beat them with it. So the prosecution shouldn't be – they shouldn't be deciding what's relevant or not. They should just be turning it all over.

When I went through training, I had a guy that – Chris Evans was his name. He's now a superior court judge. He trained us when we were baby DAs, and his philosophy on discovery is give the defense absolutely everything and then just beat them with it. So the prosecution shouldn't be – they shouldn't be deciding what's relevant or not. They should just be turning it all over.

But under Brady, there is – there are limits to what are called Brady events, and that's the prosecution's obligation to discover it. And that is, is it reasonably likely to – you know, lead to, you know, corroborative of a defense or reasonably likely to help the defendant in their claims. And, you know, that's, there's, there's gray area there.