Senator Dick Durbin
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The bill, which has no enforcement mechanism, could subject women and girls to physical inspection by an adult if someone from an opposing team accused them of being transgender. Think about that for a second. Your daughter, someone in your family, going to play a sport. and someone on the other team challenges them, that's not a little girl, that's a transgender boy.
The bill, which has no enforcement mechanism, could subject women and girls to physical inspection by an adult if someone from an opposing team accused them of being transgender. Think about that for a second. Your daughter, someone in your family, going to play a sport. and someone on the other team challenges them, that's not a little girl, that's a transgender boy.
The bill, which has no enforcement mechanism, could subject women and girls to physical inspection by an adult if someone from an opposing team accused them of being transgender. Think about that for a second. Your daughter, someone in your family, going to play a sport. and someone on the other team challenges them, that's not a little girl, that's a transgender boy.
This bill that we're about to vote on gives authority to someone to make a physical inspection of that little girl if someone from the opposing team accuses them of being transgender. Does that sound a little extreme to you? Well, it sure does to me too.
This bill that we're about to vote on gives authority to someone to make a physical inspection of that little girl if someone from the opposing team accuses them of being transgender. Does that sound a little extreme to you? Well, it sure does to me too.
This bill that we're about to vote on gives authority to someone to make a physical inspection of that little girl if someone from the opposing team accuses them of being transgender. Does that sound a little extreme to you? Well, it sure does to me too.
Thanks, Rachel. Good to be with you.
Thanks, Rachel. Good to be with you.
Rachel, you and I have heard many people use the phrase constitutional crisis and try to define exactly when it reaches a breaking point with our Constitution. And it seems to me that the final question is the one I raise with these witnesses.
Rachel, you and I have heard many people use the phrase constitutional crisis and try to define exactly when it reaches a breaking point with our Constitution. And it seems to me that the final question is the one I raise with these witnesses.
If you are given a court order that says to this president, or any president for that matter, that there are certain actions that they cannot take or should not take or have to take, are you going to follow that order? And it turned out to be a debating topic. I thought the answer was a clear yes and let's move on. But they wanted to debate it.
If you are given a court order that says to this president, or any president for that matter, that there are certain actions that they cannot take or should not take or have to take, are you going to follow that order? And it turned out to be a debating topic. I thought the answer was a clear yes and let's move on. But they wanted to debate it.
You heard one of them qualify and say, well, generally, yes. And we had these equivocal answers. The most definitive answer came from John Kennedy, as you noted, a Republican of Louisiana, who made it clear what I think the law is. You may hate the order of the court, but you either follow it or resign, period. I can't think of an exception to that.
You heard one of them qualify and say, well, generally, yes. And we had these equivocal answers. The most definitive answer came from John Kennedy, as you noted, a Republican of Louisiana, who made it clear what I think the law is. You may hate the order of the court, but you either follow it or resign, period. I can't think of an exception to that.
They tried to use an illustration, Korematsu, Dred Scott, those terrible decisions. One of the Republican senators used is an illustration of a court order that you could morally rationalize opposing. But the bottom line is you cannot take a subjective test on this issue. If you did, you'd have someone who might be a racist who says Brown versus Board of Education, integrating our schools.
They tried to use an illustration, Korematsu, Dred Scott, those terrible decisions. One of the Republican senators used is an illustration of a court order that you could morally rationalize opposing. But the bottom line is you cannot take a subjective test on this issue. If you did, you'd have someone who might be a racist who says Brown versus Board of Education, integrating our schools.
I don't believe in that. That's morally reprehensible to me. And I will not enforce that order in my administration of education. So you see, that's a slippery slope. So I think we've raised the threshold question for the Department of Justice appointments by this administration. And we'd better debate it out because it gets to the heart of our democracy.
I don't believe in that. That's morally reprehensible to me. And I will not enforce that order in my administration of education. So you see, that's a slippery slope. So I think we've raised the threshold question for the Department of Justice appointments by this administration. And we'd better debate it out because it gets to the heart of our democracy.
Well, I can tell you, I think this is going to be a standard inquiry of all those appointed to serve in the administration, particularly in the Department of Justice. As I said, I was a little bit surprised. Not totally, because we've seen some rather... amazing things done by this administration so far. But I was surprised by the answers yesterday.
Well, I can tell you, I think this is going to be a standard inquiry of all those appointed to serve in the administration, particularly in the Department of Justice. As I said, I was a little bit surprised. Not totally, because we've seen some rather... amazing things done by this administration so far. But I was surprised by the answers yesterday.