Senator John Marty

And the broader mindset, which I think a number of countries actually do. And that is your healthcare matters to me and mine matters to you while we all take care of each other. Let's assume there's enough to go around because frankly, there is when you do it that way. So I would say let's get the abundance mindset, which is a whole different way of looking at healthcare.

And the broader mindset, which I think a number of countries actually do. And that is your healthcare matters to me and mine matters to you while we all take care of each other. Let's assume there's enough to go around because frankly, there is when you do it that way. So I would say let's get the abundance mindset, which is a whole different way of looking at healthcare.

And I can give you examples of why that matters so much. But with that, I would say that's the past, present and future for what I'd like to see.

And I can give you examples of why that matters so much. But with that, I would say that's the past, present and future for what I'd like to see.

Sure, and I'll say that that gets to one of the big problems we have. We have a system that puts, as the Minnesota nurses often say, it puts profits before patients. And everybody's got their own niche on how they're going to do it. It's the, quote, non-profit health care systems in the state.

Sure, and I'll say that that gets to one of the big problems we have. We have a system that puts, as the Minnesota nurses often say, it puts profits before patients. And everybody's got their own niche on how they're going to do it. It's the, quote, non-profit health care systems in the state.

Our insurance companies until a couple of years ago that sold health policies were all, quote, non-profit. We changed the law because we didn't want to be the only state that didn't allow for profits in because somehow that was going to make health care cheaper.

Our insurance companies until a couple of years ago that sold health policies were all, quote, non-profit. We changed the law because we didn't want to be the only state that didn't allow for profits in because somehow that was going to make health care cheaper.

But our hospital systems, most of them are nonprofit, and they're supposed to be doing it, but their CEOs are all making multimillion-dollar salaries. They're all very heavy bureaucratic things, top-heavy administratively. Because we can make money doing this. And even though they're not profit-making entities, there are a lot of people who are making a lot of profit off of it.

But our hospital systems, most of them are nonprofit, and they're supposed to be doing it, but their CEOs are all making multimillion-dollar salaries. They're all very heavy bureaucratic things, top-heavy administratively. Because we can make money doing this. And even though they're not profit-making entities, there are a lot of people who are making a lot of profit off of it.

And more and more of them are partnering with for-profit groups. And they share board memberships of them. And so everybody's got their own niche. Ten years ago or so, there was some new entity came into Minnesota. Great idea. And they were saying they were selling a product to employers saying, you know, we will scrutinize the bills, the health care bills of all your employees.

And more and more of them are partnering with for-profit groups. And they share board memberships of them. And so everybody's got their own niche. Ten years ago or so, there was some new entity came into Minnesota. Great idea. And they were saying they were selling a product to employers saying, you know, we will scrutinize the bills, the health care bills of all your employees.

We'll charge like I think it was like 500 bucks per employee. And we will basically guarantee you we'll save you more money than that because there's so many errors on the on the bills and everything else that you and your employees are paying a lot more than 500 or more than you should per year because of that.

We'll charge like I think it was like 500 bucks per employee. And we will basically guarantee you we'll save you more money than that because there's so many errors on the on the bills and everything else that you and your employees are paying a lot more than 500 or more than you should per year because of that.

So the only thing they do is scrutinize the bills in a logical way and figure out where the errors are. That's all they did. It was a multimillion-dollar business, and their entire business is a logical business. They are saving employers and employees money, but how do they improve health care? They don't provide one penny's worth of health care. Correct.

So the only thing they do is scrutinize the bills in a logical way and figure out where the errors are. That's all they did. It was a multimillion-dollar business, and their entire business is a logical business. They are saving employers and employees money, but how do they improve health care? They don't provide one penny's worth of health care. Correct.

And hospitals now are all big hospital systems. The hospital systems, Mayo, Essentia, Fairview, M Health Fairview, Health Partners, they're all health systems. But Abbott Northwestern Hospital – It is a healthcare provider. It provides healthcare to people, but it's part of a line of healthcare system. What does a line add to? Oh, administrative stuff.

And hospitals now are all big hospital systems. The hospital systems, Mayo, Essentia, Fairview, M Health Fairview, Health Partners, they're all health systems. But Abbott Northwestern Hospital – It is a healthcare provider. It provides healthcare to people, but it's part of a line of healthcare system. What does a line add to? Oh, administrative stuff.

We're going to do things more efficiently, more bureaucratically, more, I'd argue, less humanely. So a lot of people making a lot of money off it. Pharmaceutical industry, everybody's got their own cut of it. And pharmaceutical industry used to be just the manufacturers. Then it became... the pharmacy benefit managers, and everybody's got their own cut. The system gets more bureaucratic.

We're going to do things more efficiently, more bureaucratically, more, I'd argue, less humanely. So a lot of people making a lot of money off it. Pharmaceutical industry, everybody's got their own cut of it. And pharmaceutical industry used to be just the manufacturers. Then it became... the pharmacy benefit managers, and everybody's got their own cut. The system gets more bureaucratic.