Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
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No, I have not gotten the meeting yet. I'm still asking for the meeting. Mr. President, I would like to meet with you for five minutes. I would like to make my best case to you.
You know, I don't know what the issue is. I think perhaps the campaign got in the way because it became a question is, do we want to do this in the middle of a campaign? Shouldn't we wait till after the campaign? Maybe those were concerns. We did polling. We have polling showing that the American people support this.
You know, I don't know what the issue is. I think perhaps the campaign got in the way because it became a question is, do we want to do this in the middle of a campaign? Shouldn't we wait till after the campaign? Maybe those were concerns. We did polling. We have polling showing that the American people support this.
We've really just tried to make the case to all of the senior advisors that not only is this actually accurate legally, but that it is the right thing to do.
We've really just tried to make the case to all of the senior advisors that not only is this actually accurate legally, but that it is the right thing to do.
Well, I don't know that it's the president. I don't think I think it's the team. I don't know. I got to tell you, when I I pitched it to him, I pitched it to him with my 30 seconds that I had in a photo line.
Well, I don't know that it's the president. I don't think I think it's the team. I don't know. I got to tell you, when I I pitched it to him, I pitched it to him with my 30 seconds that I had in a photo line.
Yes. When President Biden came to New York. for the celebration of the Stonewall Inn as a national monument. I made sure I got to that photo line. I said, Mr. President, I think you have an opportunity to direct the archivist to sign and publish the ERA. You got it out. I said, and if you do, it will be everything. It will guarantee women reproductive rights.
Yes. When President Biden came to New York. for the celebration of the Stonewall Inn as a national monument. I made sure I got to that photo line. I said, Mr. President, I think you have an opportunity to direct the archivist to sign and publish the ERA. You got it out. I said, and if you do, it will be everything. It will guarantee women reproductive rights.
It will guarantee them equality under the law. It will be the cornerstone of your administration. And I said, you don't have a formal role, but the archivist does, and she needs courage. And I believe if you tell her or direct her or do a new OLC memo, she will do it. And he said, so do you want me to make a big deal about it? I said, yes, I do. And that was our conversation.
It will guarantee them equality under the law. It will be the cornerstone of your administration. And I said, you don't have a formal role, but the archivist does, and she needs courage. And I believe if you tell her or direct her or do a new OLC memo, she will do it. And he said, so do you want me to make a big deal about it? I said, yes, I do. And that was our conversation.
So it was very positive. So I've not had a negative reaction.
So it was very positive. So I've not had a negative reaction.
No matter what approach you take on this Equal Rights Amendment, it will go up to the Supreme Court. This is the only route that is possible, I think, in the near future. And why wouldn't you do it now as an opportunity to stand up for what you believe in?
No matter what approach you take on this Equal Rights Amendment, it will go up to the Supreme Court. This is the only route that is possible, I think, in the near future. And why wouldn't you do it now as an opportunity to stand up for what you believe in?
So I disagree with her analysis. And you have to understand Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a great legal mind. She was a... unbelievable scholar and justice that did great things for our country. She knows nothing about politics. It's not her job to understand politics.
So I disagree with her analysis. And you have to understand Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a great legal mind. She was a... unbelievable scholar and justice that did great things for our country. She knows nothing about politics. It's not her job to understand politics.
If you start over, you will never see reproductive freedom or equality for women in our lifetimes because it's become a political wedge issue. So there are many people in the Senate today, in the House today, that if you ask them privately, do you believe women deserve equality? They're going to say yes. But their vote on equality will be about their position on reproductive rights.
If you start over, you will never see reproductive freedom or equality for women in our lifetimes because it's become a political wedge issue. So there are many people in the Senate today, in the House today, that if you ask them privately, do you believe women deserve equality? They're going to say yes. But their vote on equality will be about their position on reproductive rights.
So that's the truth. And so I respect Justice Ginsburg for her legal acumen. I do not respect her view on this issue because I think she's wrong.