Senator Mark Kelly

Like if it got really bad, I never, I don't remember anybody ever being, having their night in the barrel where they rigged the barricade on our ship.

So it's a, it's an uncommon thing, but it does happen.

Every one of the ready rooms, everybody's, you know, watching.

Then your guy go around and around.

They know who it is.

Yeah.

And, you know, I guess some people are cheering you on, and then there's, you know, probably a little, depending on who the person is, a little bit of that schadenfreude there.

Maybe they're betting on it.

Maybe.

Yes, graded on all of them.

Now, this has become a lot different.

Okay.

Now, lately, over the last decade or so, because of advances in the systems, even on like an F-18, this thing called Magic Carpet, right?

which helps you fly the airplane in a way that keeps you on glide slope much more easily.

I went out to the ship a couple years ago in the backseat of a F-18, and the guy in the front was a Navy lieutenant, and he was just talking through this, and he would say, even when he's on the ball, which is behind the ship,

at a half a mile he says he can look around and see where people are walking around on the flight deck not a thing and when i was yeah back in the day when i was and i'm sure before that like yeah i mean aren't the lsos called paddles because they used to just do it with like you said paddles yeah but yeah we didn't do it with paddles we did it over the radio and we have a thing called a pickle which we can wave them off

You know, red lights come on on the Fresnel lens and people have to go around, but they've improved these systems.

So the boarding right now is really high.

It's very rare that somebody bolters or they get waved off.

And what that's allowed us to do in the Navy is we've just transitioned to where people don't even go to the ship before they get their wings anymore.