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Senator Ron Johnson

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

The only people who would know would be the grifters who are sucking down the pork.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

The only people who would know would be the grifters who are sucking down the pork.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

Well, again, as I pointed out, Most don't even recognize the full reality. They don't know the numbers. I've heard it said, I didn't hear McConnell say it personally, but I've heard him say, show me a member of Congress who ever lost the election because they spent too much money. So there's no public pressure not to spend. People love tax cuts. People love the free money.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

Well, again, as I pointed out, Most don't even recognize the full reality. They don't know the numbers. I've heard it said, I didn't hear McConnell say it personally, but I've heard him say, show me a member of Congress who ever lost the election because they spent too much money. So there's no public pressure not to spend. People love tax cuts. People love the free money.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

We collectively as a society are whistling by the graveyard. Nobody wants to say that this is unsustainable because to fix it is painful. I mean, you are going to have to reduce spending. And then you're very open to the political accusations as, you know, coming in. We're trying to slash Medicaid for disabled children.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

We collectively as a society are whistling by the graveyard. Nobody wants to say that this is unsustainable because to fix it is painful. I mean, you are going to have to reduce spending. And then you're very open to the political accusations as, you know, coming in. We're trying to slash Medicaid for disabled children.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

Now we're trying to preserve it for disabled children, try and get the able bodied, childless children. working age adults back to work and on private sector healthcare. But again, that's a more difficult argument to make. So it's just the way that the process just plows on. We've never, as I said, there's never been a process to actually control spending. So this is what we've always done.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

Now we're trying to preserve it for disabled children, try and get the able bodied, childless children. working age adults back to work and on private sector healthcare. But again, that's a more difficult argument to make. So it's just the way that the process just plows on. We've never, as I said, there's never been a process to actually control spending. So this is what we've always done.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

You come up to these deadlines, you put everything into one big bill. You give people things that you have to vote for. You don't want to default on the debt. You don't want to increase taxes. So those elements you bundle up with a bunch of crap.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

You come up to these deadlines, you put everything into one big bill. You give people things that you have to vote for. You don't want to default on the debt. You don't want to increase taxes. So those elements you bundle up with a bunch of crap.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

and you twist people's arms to pay for it, and keeping them basically ignorant because you never talk about the massive numbers, the massive problem that we're really in.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

and you twist people's arms to pay for it, and keeping them basically ignorant because you never talk about the massive numbers, the massive problem that we're really in.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

I mean, people kind of know it, but as long as the press isn't reporting on it, as long as the press isn't connecting the dots that the massive deaths of spending is why you can't afford things, why your dollar you held in 2019 is only worth 80 cents versus the buck it should be. By the way, a dollar you held in 1998 is worth 51 cents. OK, so we again, we don't teach people.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

I mean, people kind of know it, but as long as the press isn't reporting on it, as long as the press isn't connecting the dots that the massive deaths of spending is why you can't afford things, why your dollar you held in 2019 is only worth 80 cents versus the buck it should be. By the way, a dollar you held in 1998 is worth 51 cents. OK, so we again, we don't teach people.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

There's no there's no public pressure in terms of reducing spending or reducing deficit. There's just virtually none from conservatives right now. I'm getting it all the time. Boy, make sure that you make no tax on tips permanent. Make sure you make no tax on overtime permanent. So, well, first of all, we probably shouldn't be doing either of those. By the way, I'm all for no tax on cash tips.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

There's no there's no public pressure in terms of reducing spending or reducing deficit. There's just virtually none from conservatives right now. I'm getting it all the time. Boy, make sure that you make no tax on tips permanent. Make sure you make no tax on overtime permanent. So, well, first of all, we probably shouldn't be doing either of those. By the way, I'm all for no tax on cash tips.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

We can't. can't collect it anyway, so don't even try. All for that. But you've got to recognize these other tax cuts, they're not going to grow the economy. They're not going to focus on the one component that Besson's talking about, that we have to grow our economy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

We can't. can't collect it anyway, so don't even try. All for that. But you've got to recognize these other tax cuts, they're not going to grow the economy. They're not going to focus on the one component that Besson's talking about, that we have to grow our economy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

I don't even think it's even 50 and 60 people constructing this. I think it's a much smaller group of people, and then you maybe have 50 or 60 chiming in on one issue or another. Let me push back on overtime with you, though. I ran a plastics operation continuous shift. If you're going to work 24-7, you need four shifts.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

I don't even think it's even 50 and 60 people constructing this. I think it's a much smaller group of people, and then you maybe have 50 or 60 chiming in on one issue or another. Let me push back on overtime with you, though. I ran a plastics operation continuous shift. If you're going to work 24-7, you need four shifts.