Sergeant Curtis

And he says it, look, this is not a guy who's, this is not a super articulate guy.

This guy's not super educated.

He's a street guy.

He says it in a way that was so chilling, such a great description.

And went to prison, got out of prison, has changed his life.

I mean he's a good guy.

Like I wasn't worried or anything sitting with him.

Nice guy.

But he talks about how it – you could just tell it had really destroyed his life.

Obviously not as much as the guy in the tub.

But it had destroyed his life and he talks about how he could – he will never be a part of humanity again and it's just destroyed him.

And it's – to hear it, it's upsetting to listen to him say it, not in a – just in a very disturbing way because I – you genuinely – to feel bad for someone like that, like I feel bad for him because you could tell he's like –

And he's not saying it in a way that he wants you to feel bad for him.

Do you think mentally some people are just extremely capable of handling that situation and some people are just not?

Well, I mean, I would say it's also, that's why you, that's why soldiers make 18 year old, 19 year old soldiers make great soldiers.

Cause they're, if you're 45 years old, you, you question, you start questioning things.

You start realizing things aren't black and white and,

And sometimes maybe just following these orders, maybe I should think about this a little.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, of course, you want 18-year-olds because a 45-year-old guy goes, maybe that guy has a – maybe these guys have a –