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Sergeant Lubberts

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Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

I've had a lot of weird things happen in trial. I've never in my life had evidence such as this.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

It seemed like a big box of puzzle pieces.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

When Brent and I got involved in it, the emails started, the phone calls, castigating us for taking this. After all, doesn't a homeowner have a right to defend his dwelling? You know, I didn't argue with people. I just said, well, just stay open and let the evidence come out, and then let's see if you hold that same view.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Yes. Yes, he did. But that's not what he did. He went way, way beyond defending himself.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Coming up. I've tried a lot of murder cases, and this one seemed like a real challenge.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Because a lot of people thought we'd lose it.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

I've tried a lot of murder cases, and this one in particular seemed like a real challenge.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Because a lot of people thought we'd lose it.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Not this case, not these facts.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

I say he's a murderer. And murderers can't be heroes.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Clearly. He planned, he prepared, and he was determined to kill whoever is breaking into his house and stealing his property.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

It just seemed like Byron Smith was deer hunting, like a lot of folks do in Minnesota, where you get in your stand and you wait and you wait, and when a deer comes by, you shoot and kill it. And it just seemed like that's what he did with these kids.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

I do. And it knocked me out. I've never been able to hear a murder actually occurring.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Indeed, we did.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

In your left eye. Why would he say that a half hour before anyone came over? Well, when you go through the autopsy photographs, you see that he shot Haley Kiefer in her left eye.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Not just shooting him, but where. Where in the face is he going to shoot him?

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

Twelve minutes.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

It was frightening.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

And as he's going down the stairs, you can hear him get shot.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

So she comes in and goes right to the basement, starts walking down, and that's when he shoots her.

Dateline NBC
12 Minutes on Elm Street

She's screaming in a high pitch, saying, oh, my God, oh, my God.