Sergey Brin

But we are generally able to, after we do that, take those learnings and basically put that capability into a general model So there's not that much benefit. You can get away with a somewhat smaller specialized model, a little bit faster, a little bit cheaper, but the trends have not gone that way.

But we are generally able to, after we do that, take those learnings and basically put that capability into a general model So there's not that much benefit. You can get away with a somewhat smaller specialized model, a little bit faster, a little bit cheaper, but the trends have not gone that way.

I have to give credit to where credit's due. DeepSeek released a really surprisingly powerful model when it was January or so. That definitely closed the gap to proprietary models. We've pursued both, so we released Gemma which are our open source or open to wait models. And those perform really well. They're small, dense models, so they fit well on one computer. And

I have to give credit to where credit's due. DeepSeek released a really surprisingly powerful model when it was January or so. That definitely closed the gap to proprietary models. We've pursued both, so we released Gemma which are our open source or open to wait models. And those perform really well. They're small, dense models, so they fit well on one computer. And

They're not as powerful as Gemini. But I mean, the jury's out which way that's going to go.

They're not as powerful as Gemini. But I mean, the jury's out which way that's going to go.

Yeah, I kind of messed that up, I'll be honest. Got the timing totally wrong on that.

Yeah, I kind of messed that up, I'll be honest. Got the timing totally wrong on that.

Yeah. Right, right, but early. There are a bunch of things I wish I had done differently, but honestly, it was just like the technology wasn't ready for Google Class. But nowadays, these things I think are more sensible. I mean, there's still battery life issues, I think, that we and others need to overcome. But I think that's a cool form factor.

Yeah. Right, right, but early. There are a bunch of things I wish I had done differently, but honestly, it was just like the technology wasn't ready for Google Class. But nowadays, these things I think are more sensible. I mean, there's still battery life issues, I think, that we and others need to overcome. But I think that's a cool form factor.

I mean, when you say 10 years, though, a lot of people are saying, hey, the singularity is like five years away. So your ability to see through that into the future, I mean, it's very hard.

I mean, when you say 10 years, though, a lot of people are saying, hey, the singularity is like five years away. So your ability to see through that into the future, I mean, it's very hard.

Boy, I think sometimes us nerdy guys go and have a little too much wine and chitter chat.

Boy, I think sometimes us nerdy guys go and have a little too much wine and chitter chat.

I'm ready to go. I need just more for this conversation. Human implants, let's go. I mean, I guess we're starting to get experience with these AIs that can do certain things much better than us. And they're definitely, with my skill of math and coding, I feel like I'm better off just turning to the AI now, and how do I feel about that? I mean, it doesn't really bother me. I use it as a tool.

I'm ready to go. I need just more for this conversation. Human implants, let's go. I mean, I guess we're starting to get experience with these AIs that can do certain things much better than us. And they're definitely, with my skill of math and coding, I feel like I'm better off just turning to the AI now, and how do I feel about that? I mean, it doesn't really bother me. I use it as a tool.

So I feel like I've gotten used to it. But maybe if they get even more capable in the future... I'll look at it differently.

So I feel like I've gotten used to it. But maybe if they get even more capable in the future... I'll look at it differently.

I guess so. As an aside, management is like the easiest thing to do with AI. Yeah, absolutely. And I did this at Gemini on some of our work chats, kind of like Slack, but we have our own version. We had this AI tool that actually was really powerful. We unfortunately, anyway, temporarily got rid of it. I think we're going to bring it back and bring it to everybody.

I guess so. As an aside, management is like the easiest thing to do with AI. Yeah, absolutely. And I did this at Gemini on some of our work chats, kind of like Slack, but we have our own version. We had this AI tool that actually was really powerful. We unfortunately, anyway, temporarily got rid of it. I think we're going to bring it back and bring it to everybody.