Seth Gehle

Exactly. There is – so there's two ways you look at the – so some people – and it's the way you tell the story too, OK? If I sit here and I tell you this horrific childhood abuse story with a smile on my face, it's fucking weird and like comes off as like shock value. Like I want people to be shocked that I went through this shit versus –

Exactly. There is – so there's two ways you look at the – so some people – and it's the way you tell the story too, OK? If I sit here and I tell you this horrific childhood abuse story with a smile on my face, it's fucking weird and like comes off as like shock value. Like I want people to be shocked that I went through this shit versus –

Exactly. There is – so there's two ways you look at the – so some people – and it's the way you tell the story too, OK? If I sit here and I tell you this horrific childhood abuse story with a smile on my face, it's fucking weird and like comes off as like shock value. Like I want people to be shocked that I went through this shit versus –

I want people to understand like, so when you tell it, and this is what, this is the art of storytelling. Uh, for example, I had a lady talking to me one time and she was telling me about all this shit she went through as a kid. And the whole time she's telling it, she's smiling. And so it's like off putting for the crowd. Cause it's like, are you like proud of this shit?

I want people to understand like, so when you tell it, and this is what, this is the art of storytelling. Uh, for example, I had a lady talking to me one time and she was telling me about all this shit she went through as a kid. And the whole time she's telling it, she's smiling. And so it's like off putting for the crowd. Cause it's like, are you like proud of this shit?

I want people to understand like, so when you tell it, and this is what, this is the art of storytelling. Uh, for example, I had a lady talking to me one time and she was telling me about all this shit she went through as a kid. And the whole time she's telling it, she's smiling. And so it's like off putting for the crowd. Cause it's like, are you like proud of this shit?

Or like, what the, are you getting off on this?

Or like, what the, are you getting off on this?

Or like, what the, are you getting off on this?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

It makes it hard to relate to the story, you know? So when I tell my story, like there are parts where it's deep and it's heavy and there's a way to tell that part of the story. And then there are parts where maybe we can laugh or whatever the fuck, you know? And so anyways, I approached Nick and I said, hey man, you know, I'm writing a book and what do I do?

It makes it hard to relate to the story, you know? So when I tell my story, like there are parts where it's deep and it's heavy and there's a way to tell that part of the story. And then there are parts where maybe we can laugh or whatever the fuck, you know? And so anyways, I approached Nick and I said, hey man, you know, I'm writing a book and what do I do?

It makes it hard to relate to the story, you know? So when I tell my story, like there are parts where it's deep and it's heavy and there's a way to tell that part of the story. And then there are parts where maybe we can laugh or whatever the fuck, you know? And so anyways, I approached Nick and I said, hey man, you know, I'm writing a book and what do I do?

And it's funny, the first thing he said to me, which I love this about him, is because I think he took a step back and was like, okay, this guy's serious. He's not bullshitting me. And he said, uh, it's fucking hard. Like just, he said, it's fucking hard. I'm just going to tell you that it's, it's, it's a grind and it's hard. And I said, yeah, Roger that.

And it's funny, the first thing he said to me, which I love this about him, is because I think he took a step back and was like, okay, this guy's serious. He's not bullshitting me. And he said, uh, it's fucking hard. Like just, he said, it's fucking hard. I'm just going to tell you that it's, it's, it's a grind and it's hard. And I said, yeah, Roger that.

And it's funny, the first thing he said to me, which I love this about him, is because I think he took a step back and was like, okay, this guy's serious. He's not bullshitting me. And he said, uh, it's fucking hard. Like just, he said, it's fucking hard. I'm just going to tell you that it's, it's, it's a grind and it's hard. And I said, yeah, Roger that.

I love that because so many people, you tell them you're going to go do something. They're like, yeah, man, that's amazing. Like it'd be the next big thing. And it's like, you go start a podcast, you go to write a book, you go, whatever, you can start a business and they're like, Hey man, good job. You got it. You're going to, you're going to crush it.

I love that because so many people, you tell them you're going to go do something. They're like, yeah, man, that's amazing. Like it'd be the next big thing. And it's like, you go start a podcast, you go to write a book, you go, whatever, you can start a business and they're like, Hey man, good job. You got it. You're going to, you're going to crush it.