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The Lore Lads

Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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She was the babysitter for my fiance's aunt and uncle.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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Yeah, somewhere around there. All right. I met her because when I got off of work, I would go over to their house to watch the kids so that whoever's watching the kids could leave and go home.

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I would go over there and start playing video games with the kids.

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uh i guess she moved into she moved she moved out of her dad's house i guess it was uh not a very friendly environment okay and uh at that time the aunt and uncle had got a place and i was paying rent for my room there and She moved in.

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After 18, she moved out of her dad's house after she turned 18.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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I'm not trying to sling mud at anybody. I know. I know.

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Seth Rogers, Sebastian's father, seemed to be the only person that's, you know, seemed to be the only parent that's actively looking for him, trying to keep his name out there. All right. Trying to get people to look for him.

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There was one time in California. This was way before the divorce. Sebastian's room was dirty and his bed needed to be made. I told him he needed to clean his room, make his bed, or I was gonna beat his ass. And he went and made his bed and cleaned his room. And then the next day he went to school, he told his teacher that I said I was gonna beat his ass. CPS showed up at my house, spoke to them.

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They came into the house. They checked out his room. They checked out the fridge. They checked out the pantry. They made sure that there was food in the house and all that stuff. And they were like, well, this is what was said. And I told them, I accept that. I used the wrong verbiage with my son. It was to get him to clean his room, make his bed. I never had to do it.

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He did it, and we went back to doing what we do. Play video games, go swimming, watch movies.

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Since he was reported missing, I've been looking for my son.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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No, that was actually in... That was actually stated by the judge during our divorce because... She stated that I was borderline abusive because I had dinner at 6, shower time at 7, bedtime at 8.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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No legal way. The only thing I was able to do was actually get the deputy sheriff that was involved in the case in contact with. The psychologist at the school that the child went to, so that way they could protect the rest of the children that he was in contact with, so that hopefully it wouldn't happen again.

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I was told that I couldn't press charges because of the age difference. Because this is what the deputy sheriff told me.

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that the child was under the age to be prosecuted.

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Yeah, my son didn't get any type of justice for what happened. That really upset me.

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No, I knew that it was his therapist was not properly trained in how to take care of The child that had been.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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You know, there's particular types of training you have to have in order to help the child. And she didn't have it. And that really upset me because you can't just go to a therapist and, you know, if they don't have the proper training to help you get through something.

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Not in the position that I'm in currently.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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It's a nonprofit foundation that I've been working on.

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to help special needs families and children.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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In my vision, people would come out and stay for a week or two using animal therapy to help the children and people that are on site to sit there and give therapeutic conversation therapist-wise to help children Not just the parents and the child, but the children that, because when parents have children, maybe one of them is special needs, one of them is autistic, and the other one is not.

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Or you have two or three, and sometimes people forget about the children that are not autistic because mom and dad are now dealing with the autistic child, trying to make sure they have the correct structure, things like that. And the other children get forgotten about. And it's to bring the whole family back in. When Sebastian was going to school in Kansas, they used animal therapy.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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And I saw the difference with my son when they started using animal therapy with him. And he reacted so positively with that that that was just something that... I think that they should do more of it. Right.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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I mean, it's, He loves animals. I mean, his favorite cat, but he really likes his reptiles. He liked his horses. He liked the ducks. You know, and conversations with him, he was talking about being a vet. Well, there's nothing better than taking care of your own animals, right?

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So I started in California. Yeah. Um, I had discussed it with Katie and she didn't really, she didn't see the point of it. And I had discussed it with Sebastian and Sebastian liked the idea. Oh, it's for autistic children to begin with. He's the closest that I have to my autistic child is talking to my son. And he thought it was a great idea, so I went with it. It's for him anyways.

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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159

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Got the name, was working on getting the 501c, and spoken to several people to put him on the board. And then the divorce happened.

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They had parental controls locked out on his phone.

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Okay. Let me rephrase that. On the PlayStation, everything's under my name.

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He has his laptop that he uses for school.

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What he used during COVID-19. All right.

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No. Katie wouldn't let him bring his laptop from there to here. Which is fine. I wouldn't have got him a laptop for him to use for school here.

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Um, yeah, parental controls, the email address that he would log in, it would it would tag to me to my email address. Because his email address was a child email address. Okay. So, anything and everything that he did, I got an email with everything that he logged into and did.

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He had open access, but everything that came to was apps that he was using for school. And to log into the school classes, that's all you get.

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I mean, he had a Google email address and all the apps that were on there, he would have to log into the school class in order to log into any of the gaming apps for there. Gotcha. Because the gaming apps, literally, he would do that and he would get credit at school for...

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playing those games because it was like math questions word questions he had to go through the school firewall aiden gotcha yeah um

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Yeah. I could limit his access if he was on for too long. It had a time limit on there that I could set for him, everything.

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It's a Darth Vader edition PlayStation 4.

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No, because still, I had one pair of headphones, and I literally, they were in my room. I'm wearing them now. And there was so much dust on these things.

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Well, me and my son had an understanding. You know, you don't come into my room unless I invite you to my room.

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And your room, I will go into whenever I want to.

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You know? And it's like, okay. He would never, you know, unless I asked him to go into my room, he wouldn't do that.

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Well, that was on my phone. Okay. And I have the volume and everything. So that way I don't listen to anybody when I'm playing on my phone. Right. Because people don't listen to follow directions anyways. Look at what we're doing. We're correcting rumors. Yeah. Because people hear what they want to hear. And it's like, well, Sunday. They can't hear you.

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Law enforcement took his tablet that he had.

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Yeah, his grandma had given him a tablet for Christmas. And that was 21. And he never used it. I had to find the charger for it. They plugged it in. It took like 15 minutes before it started even registering a charge. Gotcha. Yeah. And they literally turned it on. It was like, oh, this hasn't been turned on since 2021. And I'm like, well, that's because he's never owned it.

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As for his laptop, he's got a regular laptop that he used for school. But he would come over for a weekend and he would never use it. Like when law enforcement showed up, I showed it to him. And they're like, yeah, we don't want that.

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They did take the tablet that was in this room.

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My mother, yeah. He's not supposed to have contact with Katie's mother. She's not supposed to have contact with children at all.

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Oh, while we were married? No. Gotcha. She had no contact when she decided that she was going to divorce me. Then she started having contact with her. And then I found out that my son was having contact with us.

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We were married when Katie's grandfather passed off, passed on. And I wasn't allowed to go. To the funeral? To the funeral.

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Katie would not buy me a ticket to go back to Virginia with her and Sebastian. And I was forced to stay in California.

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While she was there, I called to speak to Sebastian, and I was screamed and yelled at. I'm having dinner with my dad. He is at home with my grandma. And I called, and she was like, you already have the number. I was like, I need the number, because the number you gave me is not working. And she gave me the number. I called. Her grandmother answered the phone.

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I was like, I'm calling to speak to my son. And Sebastian got on the phone and I was like, hey, buddy. What are you doing? It was like, I'm watching TV. I was like, who's all at the house? And he told me, Grandma Susie and Grandma Francis. And as soon as he told me that, I told him, go to the living room. watch TV. I will call you back shortly.

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And I turned around and I, I contacted Chesapeake PD to do a well care check on my son because he's not supposed to be around a particular person. And yet he sat in there calling her grandma, Francis, which tells me that he knows who she is and he's interacting with her.

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This was closer to the divorce. So like mid-2010s probably? I think her grandpa passed on in 2015 or 2016.

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She had already told me she wanted a divorce. I don't believe she had filed, but that was the last draw for her.

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When... She called me up. You sent the cops to my grandma's house. I was like, you have our son around somebody that's not supposed to be around children. So, I mean, I find that very interesting that.

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I call the police because you're putting him in a situation he should never have been in. And it seems to be something that has continually happened until my son is now missing.

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It's not your fault. I just, there's a lot of things I just, there's a lot of stuff I don't understand. I don't understand why a mother wouldn't put her children in danger. I know.

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Yeah, but I would really like to get back to talking about Sebastian. That's what I'm doing.

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I mean, I'm going through hell, but I don't know what my son is going through. You know, you got 600,000 subscribers. I told you, the reason I came on here, I don't care about clearing up stupid shit.

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It's reaching more people to get more people to be looking for Sebastian. It's all I care about.

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Went to the same pools, went to the same parks. Yeah. Okay.

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They came by my house, taking pictures of my front yard, taking pictures of my truck. Why didn't they stop bringing the doorbell? I got flyers and stuff. I had to given them some flyers to hand out. You're going to come. I know. My son is missing. Sebastian Wayne Drake Rogers is missing, and I need everybody to be looking for him. If you see him, just call 911. Let law enforcement handle it.

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Don't be scared about reaching to him or anything like that. Just call 911 and let them deal with it. And if you have a tip, please call it into Sumner County. Please call it into TBI. Call it into FBI. They're not going to get back with you. And if you feel that you need to, reach out to Dog. Reach out. I have my own that's out there. Any tip that's given to Dog will get to me.

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Let's use some constructive thinking here. All right. The person leaves their house. They're either A, they do. They leave on their own. They walk out the front door. Nonchalant. They're not being forced out. They're not running for their life. They're going to have shoes on. They're going to pack a bag. They're going to take the things that they like.

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In Sebastian's case, it would have been his phone, his Switch. He would have had his coat. He would have probably put on his boots because it was... I just bought those for him. He's the one that took an hour and a half to figure out what size he was going to wear, what size fit him, what fit comfortably. You know, he would probably wear his boots.

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I saw the boots that I bought him, and I saw the tennis shoes that Katie bought him, and I saw his old pair.

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That's what was told to me by law enforcement. Right. Now, if he had left that house, if it was a flight or fight... Mm-hmm. When you're put in a situation, if he had ran out that house, he would have ran out to the middle of the street. Every camera that was out there would have picked him up.

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Yeah. I'll tell you right now. I've been through several PIs. In the last year, and if you notice, any of my PIs that went on social media aren't my PIs anymore. I have a PI local that's on this case right now, and they're not going to go on social media. PIs that go on social media are not private.

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Yeah. The PIs that I did have on the case that are no longer on the case turned around and gave everything that they had to law enforcement and didn't even bother to tell me that they did until afterwards. And I'm like, well, why are you giving it to them? I'm the one that's paying you. They're not. I should have everything. Before you give it to them.

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So that I can take it and give it to them after I go through it. Right. To see if there's anything.

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Yes. It was a lot of unprofessionalism that I did not approve of trying to find my son.

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You know, you have conversations with somebody that's laying down next to you. And you're actually having not pillow talk, but you're actually having conversations, deep conversations. And then you find out that everything that they said was a lie. You know, I was married for a long time, divorced, didn't care to find another significant other. I have things to do called taking care of my son.

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And now I'm looking for him and this person comes along and it's like, well, you know, Little really fucked up. Excuse my language.

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This is a real messed up time in my life, but maybe God put somebody here to help me in my time. And it was just the devil playing.

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The reason that the cease and desist were done by my attorney was to show the court system and CPS that I did not have any communication or affiliation with the people. So if they came out with the CPS reports, CPS and the state can take it up with them in it. It, it, it clears up the fact that I have nothing to do with them.

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something that Sebastian was supposedly doing.

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Yeah. Sebastian loves Faith. Sebastian... sister. Sebastian has never touched, hurt, or harmed a hair on Faith's head.

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They wanted to come live with me. I'm all down for my son to come live with me.

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That wasn't until later. Okay. They wanted him to come live with me. I couldn't get him enrolled in online school. And as everybody knows, I work 12-hour shifts at night.

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That doesn't allow me to get back here in time to make sure that he's up and ready for school.

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So my idea was Clarksville, Tennessee has an online school system.

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So that way the child can stay at home and do his online classes. And he was supposed to be getting ABA therapy, and they were going to be doing in-home therapy. So to me, it was easier if I could just get him into the online classes.

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I watched during COVID-19, he excelled in the online classes. So I wanted to set him up for success, not for failure. And why he was doing the ABA until we got him where he needed to be up here. And then by then I could have changed and done other things so that he would have been going to school.

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He was staying with the Proudfoots until the end of the last school year and then he would have been coming to stay with me.

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They brought that up to me that they were over his behavior and they were going to... They were looking to send him to a place. And it was like, well... how long are you talking about? Is this going to be like summer program? You know, is he going to go for a couple months during the summer? You know, what are we talking about? And they were like, no, they were talking about in a live-in facility.

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Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. It's to help with the socialization part. Right. Makes sense.

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It would have been something he did where he was getting where he was going to get it. They have a headquarters here in Parksville. So he would have been in home. They would have came to the house and they've been working with him for an hour or two every day. Gotcha.

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He was already supposed to come live with me. Okay. But because I was the wait list to get into online education here in Clarksville, the six month waiting list. Gotcha. Yeah. All right, so when I say he disappeared, I already had him enrolled here at Clarksville. Gotcha. To begin the next school year, because that's how long, I mean, I had him enrolled.

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He was having accidents. At one point in time, Chris was upset that I had sent him back to the house not in a diaper, an actual underwear. And at another point in time, Chris got upset, so he gave me all of his underwear.

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I was approached differently. I was approached on the basis of, Hey, do you want your, you know, what do you think about Sebastian? Come live with you. Yeah.

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Before the information that I have now, it was coming from Chris.

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The information that I have now, it was a joint venture.

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I was already working on that from the year before, because they were like, hey, can't get even now. But what you have to do is on this day, you need to call up. You need to go ahead and apply. So I was just waiting for time.

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She called me up because she knew Sebastian was missing. And she was like, hey, do you want me to start your GoFundMe? And I was like, you can, just don't put Sebastian's name on it. Because there had been a previous conversation between me, Chris, and Katie. And Chris said, we don't need a GoFundMe. That makes us look bad. And it's...

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I was waiting on dates so I could get applications put in.

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Well, he was already in school. Yeah. And pulling him out of school is not, I didn't want to do any more detrimental. He was already in school. He needs to stay in school until the end of that. All right.

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Correct. Okay. Now, what happened in between that and the next school year was supposedly sebastian got back on track and they didn't have a problem with him going to beach high school okay now school year begins he's there gets stuff gets worse at the house and it's affecting his behavior

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i'm still waiting i've already done everything i'm supposed to do so now i'm waiting on the school system here to give me that acknowledgement that he's going to be into the online school and all of a sudden we want to send him into a you know a facility a program thing okay and when they sent me that information i was like you're not going to send it this place and kids have died here

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You're not going to send my son to any place where kids have died and have been abused.

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Not knowing what's going on in that house as it was.

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So when they approached me with that, I contacted an enrollment lady that dealt with a whole bunch of facilities for special needs and autistic children. And when I contacted her, I was like, listen, if they're going to do this, there needs to be animals there. There needs to be a good structure there. And it needs to be beneficial for Sebastian, not some facility.

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You know, it needs to have actual hands on with what's going on. And she sent me the list and I forwarded it to Katie. And I never heard back.

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Well, yeah. They contacted me. I said yes, and the next thing I did was contact the school. The school's Lord told me that I'd be able to apply on these dates, and I let them know that.

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Because, well, it takes me an hour or so to get home. If he's got to be at school at 7, I get off at 7. It takes me 8, 8.30 for me to get home, depending on traffic.

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Well, again, then my son's late to school. That's detrimental to his learning program.

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I don't know about anybody else, but this was my first time dealing with a missing child, and I knew that I was going to be looking for my son.

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I let them know. And then all of a sudden they're talking about setting into a facility and everything.

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That was December. November or December. November.

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When they brought it back up to me, I had stayed in it. You did stay. I stayed in it. So I had him already registered for the 24-25 school year.

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I saw him, yeah. Yeah, the weekend before he went missing. The 18th.

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Let's see. I think we ordered pizza on Friday night. I think we went over to my buddy's house on Saturday, played pool in the arcade that they've got over at their house. That was Saturday. And then Sunday, back at the house, I think we played four or five games of Magic. And then that morning, well.

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Sebastian's got the core books for D&D. I bought those for him. Not only did I buy them for him, but I bought him duplicates, two of each, so he had a copy at his mom's house, and he has a copy here at my house. All right? Play D&D, play Magic the Gathering. I mean, he would come here. We go for tournaments. He's got an health deck.

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That is a green elf deck. It's probably a $300 or $400 elf deck, and it is just nasty. Okay. Yeah. I had him play and match it together in California. We'd go to tournaments. We knew the owner of one of the stores, so... We went there. There were people there that would not play my son because of that tech. We're like, no, no. It was just so stacked. You know, and it's like, why not?

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It was like, hmm, no. You give him one turn, and all of a sudden you got 15 Ls that are 4-4s coming over to smack you in the trample.

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No, no, we don't want that. And it's like, hmm, no. let's make this even better. So, you know, and that's, that's his deck. Like I buy cards and it's like, what do you want to add into it? You know,

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Yeah. My mom did not like that game. She thought I was into summoning demonic things and tore up my cards. And I was like, Yeah, mom, that was a burnt maiden, you know. It's a 10 cent card. Not sure what you think you did. Yeah. But Sebastian loved to play D&D. He liked to play Magic the Gathering.

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Yes, he was good because, well, it's, I've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. I've got 12 commander decks. Mm-hmm. And he's played all of them.

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Yes. It's good for reading. It's good for memorizing. It's great for math. I mean... it's good for actual school. And because you got to play with people, it was a good for socialization.

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Yeah. You know, except for my son smelled better than that.

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He knows what deodorant and soap was. And I tell you, hey, D&D night, it's like COVID-19, wear a mask. Because sometimes they just, I mean.

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This is what his – when he was here, if we weren't fishing, we were playing magic. We were going out and doing things. And it's just like one of the things that gets me is that everybody in my neighborhood, my neighbor, my neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, they know Sebastian. Me and Sebastian go to Walmart. The people that work at Walmart know my son.

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Oh, he doesn't know their names, but he knows that that's the lady that slices the lunch meat really good. All right? So, you know, and it's just people that he interacted with. And then nobody in that neighborhood interacted with my son. What kind of... What kind of structure is that?

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No. And when Katie said that Sebastian said that he wanted friends for Christmas, well, that's not what he told me he wanted for Christmas. What did he tell you he wanted for Christmas? All he wanted to do was a road trip to Texas to go see his Meemaw and his Pat-Pat. That's it. Because we didn't get to go the year before. Right.

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There's no kids around here. They're all adults. But when we went to D&D night, there's three adults and then the other... are all kids.

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Like his age kids, parents drop them off for D and D. So he's interacting with children that are his age.

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Well, look at Tony. Tony's like, I have no idea what they're talking about.

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Yep. Because a lot of people don't want to get involved. Yeah, the Bison is crazy. You know, just call 911. Tell them, hey, look, I think this was Sebastian Rogers. I'm at this address. And let law enforcement show up and do their job.

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Yeah. I mean, it's not that hard. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's straight down Long Hollow, make a left, make a right at the Sonic, take it all the way to the interstate, and then take 24 all the way north. Gotcha.

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No, and you've got to be a particular age to get on a bus. Really? Yes.

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And we checked the Greyhound bus stations. We checked CTS. I mean, and we're talking about three, four weeks every day, driving 24 all the way to their house. Not to their house, but to Goodlettsville. Love Hollow Pike. every day driving every day looking for him just to see if he was in route law enforcement had me take them the route that i drive after i pick him up and yeah

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Would wear a hoodie, uh, while you're sitting in the living room.

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I'd like people to remember that there is a missing child. Nothing else really matters to me. Nothing matters except for Sebastian. See something, say something. If you see somebody that looks like Sebastian, you think it might be Sebastian, please call 911. You know, you're sitting there. talking to somebody, show them a picture and be like, hey, if you see this child, call 911.

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Word of mouth still spreads faster than people realize. There's going to be, I don't like to address it, but the hate channels are going to be there no matter what. I feel sorry for them. I pray that I pray that the karma that they're infusing doesn't come back to bite them. But my son is missing. Sebastian Wayne Drake Rogers is out there. And if you see this son, please call 911.

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Tell them who you are and tell them where you're at. Please. And if you guys could share the flyer with his name on there, his picture on there, I'd appreciate it.

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The FBI has changed it. I don't know if TBI has. But just get his picture out there for me.

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I mean, we're in routine communication with them. I mean, we just spoke with them yesterday. Wasn't it yesterday we talked to them, Toby?

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He cleared that up nice and well. Well, if their PI isn't in communication with them, let's use him.

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I would have preferred to talk about Sebastian more, but I understand there's people that want to. Continue with the rumors.

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It's a distraction. Yeah, it's a distraction. It's a distraction, and only those that are guilty want distractions. Yeah. I want my son. Mm-hmm.