Seán Farrell

So I would say for our staff, it's really two major feelings.

First of all, concern for their own families themselves as they respond, but also concern for the communities in which they work.

And the second one is, I think, from talking to the staff in Bunia, a real determination to make a huge difference and to try and stop the spread of this disease.

And particularly in some of the huge camps where we work on the edge of Bunia.

Maybe one thing for your listeners, David, that's maybe not known, while

Ettore is about the size of Ireland, with a population of five million people.

Bunya, which is the main town in Ettore, is at the epicentre of this.

But there are huge camps of displaced people

not just in Eturi, but also around Bunia.

So of that 5 million people, due to the ongoing conflict in eastern DR Congo, about 1 million people are displaced in camps.

So this obviously is a huge challenge in terms of coordination and response.

It does, and it obviously makes things like what we learned from the last outbreak in 2018 in DRC, what we learned from the 2014 outbreak in Sierra Leone, is that things like tracing and quarantine is key in terms of preventing and managing the spread.

So it obviously makes it much more difficult to do adequate tracing and particularly to do quarantine when we're in a situation where so many people are displaced

but also in a situation where there are multiple armed groups operating in the area.

We had an attack last week, for example, that killed 17 people in one village.

So in a context of ongoing conflict, it makes a response even more complicated than it would be, for example, in a country like Uganda.

I think the first thing to say about Uganda is that it has managed Ebola outbreaks before.

When I lived in Uganda, there were two outbreaks in the time that I lived there, and the Ugandan government managed them very, very well in terms of strict protocols, etc.

At the moment, what we're looking at is about closing on 1,000 cases in eastern DR Congo, 120 deaths.

So far, seven cases in Uganda, but already the Ugandan authorities have taken