Shaka Hislop

Now, again, to Gacy's point, 18 million, you don't kind of turn that to... Possibly 20 with bonuses, by the way.

Whichever way.

We're not talking about a Premier League club.

Norwich are a championship club struggling.

That's a lot of money in relation to where they are.

So they can play hardball, but ultimately, financially, I think they have to allow him to make this move.

But then, while I totally sympathize and I feel for Norwich in this instance in having to accept that move, that then gives...

Free license to everybody who is subject to another bid to do exactly the same.

And we're just going to be having this conversation because, again, for whatever reason, and I put this more on the agents than the players themselves, this seems to be the first planning.

This is planning in terms of getting a move out of the club.

I don't think they have much choice.

Play hardball, but only for so long.

Well, to Casey's point, he'll be fine in terms of full recovery.

You know, ordinarily, if we are talking about an ACL, as Casey mentioned, even though success rates are so much higher nowadays, it's still a major surgery.

But a broken arm for a striker, he'll be fine.

In the long term.

Here's the issue for me with this proposed move in this window.

PSV are still in the Champions League.

and well okay they already play all sports right now we've got two games remaining against mighty newcastle uh and and then and then bayern munich so they may very well find themselves outside of of those playoff playoff spaces but so many player decisions are made with the work up in mind exactly now for ricardo pepe do you go

to a Fulham where you're mid-table, the end of the season, you're not getting relegated, you're not getting into Europe, it just kind of plays its way out, or do you start with a PSV, given the position they are in the Eredivisie, given the fact that you may get into the knockout stage of the Champions League, does that serve him better with an eye on the summer?