Shaka Hislop

So now, Quiñones probably thinking, or at the very least, probably being sold

Quite similarly, join Flamengo, this project that we're on and six months and what all that could mean in leading up to the World Cup.

So that for me is just kind of seeing what Flamengo are doing or reports suggesting will be done by the end of January in terms of who they bring in or the calibre of player that they're bringing in.

Quiñones probably fits into that.

I think Quinones and Paqueta also will complement each other in the way that they play.

So there is a possibility here that he's seeing this as a viable stepping stone in much the same way that Paqueta is given where he is currently and what he hopes to be doing in the summer or how he hopes to figure for Ancelotti.

I don't know.

Listen, I agree.

And to that point, while I'm with you, there's a whole lot more to this that clearly we are not privy to.

To have as highly placed officials at a football club come out and say a strongly weighted statement as that,

SUGGEST AS MUCH.

THE THING FOR ME IS, YOU HAVE TWO HIGHLY PLACED OFFICIALS COME OUT AND SAY THAT, NO, CHUKALAZAR IS RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO HOLD MY GROUND, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING.

BECAUSE IF YOU SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ME UP.

IF YOU WERE DETERMINED THAT I GO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ME UP.

And then right now, it's a little bit of a waiting game between now and the start of the MLS season, whether they do pay him up or how significantly they pay him up.

But he's not going to be out of pocket as of right now.

And so he can, Chucky Lozano, if he plays this well, can have his cake and eat it too.

Can get his money, can find himself somewhere else on some other roster that maybe suits his talents a little bit better.

And all of a sudden, he's in the showcase for...