Shaka Hislop

Don't say Chirky, just... I play Foden and anybody else in that case.

But to Craig's point, I'd prefer Chirky if I'd been out of silver, if it were me.

Listen, I think Arbeloa's first task or first need is to be a man-manager, which, oddly, I think Javier Alonso went wrong.

You never would have thought that Javier Alonso, given Sydney's playing career... But can you see my point?

I take your point absolutely, but to Sid's point, there's so many layers to this.

One, work up to come and you don't know what's going to happen immediately before or after in terms of manager availability.

There was this dynamic between Vinicius and Javier Alonso, where Vinicius is refusing to sign a contract unless he was out to the picture.

So there was so much for Florentino Perez to consider, not just from a

from a footballing perspective, but from a running a football club's perspective.

And so he felt the best thing to do was at least try to button that up with Vinicius Junior, and then you figure out what the next steps are in terms of who comes in and who's the longer term replacement.

Here's my question.

As a player, I don't know of teams doing Guards of Honours for a cup final like this.

Right.

Xabi Alonso lost, what, the Europa League final?

Yep.

Does anybody remember Leverkusen doing Guard of Honour then?

I just find it... Barcelona did do it for Real Madrid when they won the Supercopa.

Oh, well... When they've done it before.

I find it odd.

I find it odd.