Shaka Senghor

Yeah.

You know Josh?

This is a guy who used to work for the Innocence Project and now he works for the Ike Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice.

And it's mostly dealing with wrongfully incarcerated people.

And, you know, and some of them, the stories, you just, you hear it and it's...

It just kills you.

It breaks your heart.

And just try to imagine what it's like to be that person.

Dealing with corrupt DAs, corrupt prosecutors, corrupt everything, corrupt cops.

Yeah.

And people just get railroaded because they need to hang a conviction on somebody.

We should probably have an appreciation of freedom.

That's just different for everybody else's.

You know, we should all keep that kid.

Yeah.

I mean, life forces you to get hard in a certain way.

And I'm sure your life forced you to get hard in a way that most people can't comprehend.

But the fact that you can hang on to that childlike joy of things.

Yeah, the system is just set up to punish.

They're set up to just lock people up so they're off the streets and so other people don't have to deal with them.