Shaka Senghor

It could be any of us.

Absolutely.

Any of us.

And leaving these communities the way they are and not doing anything to try to fix them is, to me, it's the biggest failure of our government.

Other than interventional war, interventional foreign policy and starting wars that are unnecessary and costing lives, which is the worst thing we've ever done.

And that's the next worst is that we don't do anything about it.

Just think about the thing about being able to make a tattoo gun out of a piano wire or a guitar string and an engine from something else, some sort of a motor.

And you see some of the tattoos these guys make in jail.

You're like, Jesus Christ, these are incredible tattoos.

Was that when you were already out of solitary?

Yeah.

For what?

Like how many of those guys could get out of jail and be excellent tattooists?

Well, it's because it's so competitive.

And oftentimes people that aren't educated are some of the most incredibly talented people.

They just have some weird thing about them that allows them to think differently.

Yeah.

They don't care you didn't get a degree.

Hire them quick.

How do you how do you sort out a program like this?