Shaka Senghor

He writes things down.

He's got a chart on his wall where he figures out what he's doing wrong and how to correct it.

And he's doing that work and he's correcting it.

I'm not doing that.

That's why he's getting ahead and I'm not.

Okay.

But you got to be vulnerable even with yourself.

Well, I think those lessons that you get from athletes is one of the reasons why we love sports so much.

So we see ourselves in these athletes and see their struggles and their triumphs.

And we say, I think if I work hard, I can do that, too.

I could do something similar in my own life.

I think a lot of people are going to get that out of this conversation, too, from you.

What you've gone through and who you are now is very admirable.

I appreciate it.

Really, the way you express yourself, the way you can talk about these ideas.

The way you're so vulnerable to just talk about what you went through.

It's an insane journey, you know.

And I really appreciate you coming on here, man.

But I think we all have that.

I think it's just not nourished.