Shané Oosthuizen

There's some kind of, like, majesty about it.

Like, it's the same as Eragon.

Like, I feel like, again, it just links back to all of these things that we've been trained to love as kids.

I mean, I also say How to Train Your Dragon is my favourite movie.

I'm sorry.

Well, yeah, I mean, I love it.

I think it definitely is to do with that readership growing up.

Like, I'm sure that there was kind of there was mature fantasy that existed way back before we kind of have the romantic of today.

But I think that all of us, I think, are kind of a similar demographic.

And I think that's largely what the readership is for these books, too.

And we grew up reading, you know, Harry Potter, Eragon, Lord of the Rings movies were coming out.

We grew up with Twilight.

We got that dash of romance.

And that's why I feel like YA fantasy was so popular because it was that kind of cleaner romance that was maybe more age appropriate.

The first love triangles, exactly, exactly.

Where I think that, I mean, we could probably take Sarah J Maas as like the perfect case study for this because her books literally grew up, I think, with her audience as she realised that there was this market that was maybe...

wanting these kinds of themes, but in that more mature setting like we get with, you know, Fourth Wing and Die Bound as well.

So I think that, you know, there was an actual marked shift between book three of Throne of Glass and book four and five and onwards, which was also around the time that A Court of Thorns and Roses started, which was this new thing called New Adult.

And I do think a lot of the romanticism now, the romanticism now is probably what would have been called New Adult a few years ago.

It's just kind of got this new term now.