Shané Oosthuizen

The silence speaks volumes.

grinding him down in a different way I think there's a there's like a scene where he he says something that's really upset her and she tells him that he needs to be respectful and he says I can but she's also wanting honesty from him and he's like I can always be honest or I can always be respectful you can't get both from me because like my honesty is not going to be respectful to what you believe

I do think that's actually very important because there's so many ways that genocide manifests and cultural erosion is such a big part of that as well.

And I think it's so powerful and like Tomo at various stages feels so guilty for this, but like he has kept like the Kaldon ways so alive in Kara and he's

like he says that he's done it like very selfishly because he couldn't bear to see their tribe die out like that and because um well because if he like if he had raised her to be more turinish then she would have been quite a different person but she would have been safer and so this does put her in danger but he like can't bear to see the end of everything that he's ever known um and so i think like that just sort of speaks to like um i mean we live in a version of turan um

And it sort of speaks to like the First Nations issues that we hear about just daily and regularly.

And so it is really powerful to see that on the page as well.

They are.

Yeah, the environmental costs of their magic is so, so high that they've essentially devastated like an entire continent.

And so, yeah, it is really relevant to what we're experiencing at the moment.

And I think technology is one aspect, but it's just kind of consumerism in general in this world.

Like they're using magic for everything.

They're using magic to get people on the trains.

They're using magic to turn the stove on.

They're using magic for everything and anything.

And every single use has this kind of environmental cost associated with it.

And it's so interesting because we're in a time right now where people are talking about how they don't,

watch the news or look at the news because it's too overwhelming.

And I completely understand the reality of that, but it's also interesting to think about what happens when you just look away.

Yes.