Shane Harris

It's a question of the way it was transmitted and the risk that goes with that. There is the obvious risk that, you know, someone could be in the room that wasn't supposed to be there. But there's another risk that we haven't talked about, which is that the devices themselves, the phones, on which signal is running for these 17 or so officials,

It's a question of the way it was transmitted and the risk that goes with that. There is the obvious risk that, you know, someone could be in the room that wasn't supposed to be there. But there's another risk that we haven't talked about, which is that the devices themselves, the phones, on which signal is running for these 17 or so officials,

Could those phones have been compromised by a foreign government or by a criminal group?

Could those phones have been compromised by a foreign government or by a criminal group?

Could those phones have been compromised by a foreign government or by a criminal group?

Could they be hacked, exactly. And if they were hacked, that means somebody could theoretically be reading the messages as if they were standing there holding the phone themselves. And this is not theoretical.

Could they be hacked, exactly. And if they were hacked, that means somebody could theoretically be reading the messages as if they were standing there holding the phone themselves. And this is not theoretical.

Could they be hacked, exactly. And if they were hacked, that means somebody could theoretically be reading the messages as if they were standing there holding the phone themselves. And this is not theoretical.

The government, just in recent days, has put out guidance to people who are using Signal, including officials who are using it, warning them about the vulnerabilities that Signal has to foreign intelligence services. And there are questions about, was signal running on these officials?

The government, just in recent days, has put out guidance to people who are using Signal, including officials who are using it, warning them about the vulnerabilities that Signal has to foreign intelligence services. And there are questions about, was signal running on these officials?

The government, just in recent days, has put out guidance to people who are using Signal, including officials who are using it, warning them about the vulnerabilities that Signal has to foreign intelligence services. And there are questions about, was signal running on these officials?

Government phones, which we would hope have a pretty high degree of security, or their personal phones, which are under their personal recognizance. That might not be as secure as a government phone. So that, I think, tilts it a little more towards the severe side. But I think it's in the middle of those two scandals.

Government phones, which we would hope have a pretty high degree of security, or their personal phones, which are under their personal recognizance. That might not be as secure as a government phone. So that, I think, tilts it a little more towards the severe side. But I think it's in the middle of those two scandals.

Government phones, which we would hope have a pretty high degree of security, or their personal phones, which are under their personal recognizance. That might not be as secure as a government phone. So that, I think, tilts it a little more towards the severe side. But I think it's in the middle of those two scandals.

The typical response to this would be, I think it would be twofold. One, I think the officials would be humiliated. They'd be highly embarrassed. And if they... were thinking about their reputations, would probably try to come out and maybe try and do something to soften the blow, but essentially take responsibility for it.

The typical response to this would be, I think it would be twofold. One, I think the officials would be humiliated. They'd be highly embarrassed. And if they... were thinking about their reputations, would probably try to come out and maybe try and do something to soften the blow, but essentially take responsibility for it.

The typical response to this would be, I think it would be twofold. One, I think the officials would be humiliated. They'd be highly embarrassed. And if they... were thinking about their reputations, would probably try to come out and maybe try and do something to soften the blow, but essentially take responsibility for it.

I would expect in any other administration, the national security advisor probably would have offered the president his resignation, and the president might have taken it. The other thing that would happen here is that there would be an investigation, and probably the FBI would do that investigation. The reason for that is...

I would expect in any other administration, the national security advisor probably would have offered the president his resignation, and the president might have taken it. The other thing that would happen here is that there would be an investigation, and probably the FBI would do that investigation. The reason for that is...

I would expect in any other administration, the national security advisor probably would have offered the president his resignation, and the president might have taken it. The other thing that would happen here is that there would be an investigation, and probably the FBI would do that investigation. The reason for that is...