Shane Smith

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look, again, I have no dog in the race. I was literally just trying to get to some sort of, okay, what are the facts? I didn't. That's one thing. I talked to everybody I could on both sides. And again, it's so confusing that even now I'm like... After having, like it's.

Look, again, I have no dog in the race. I was literally just trying to get to some sort of, okay, what are the facts? I didn't. That's one thing. I talked to everybody I could on both sides. And again, it's so confusing that even now I'm like... After having, like it's.

Look, again, I have no dog in the race. I was literally just trying to get to some sort of, okay, what are the facts? I didn't. That's one thing. I talked to everybody I could on both sides. And again, it's so confusing that even now I'm like... After having, like it's.

It does. Look, it could be a strategy. There's a strategy on both sides for sure. But it's just like it's so fucked up to try to find the facts on this stuff. Right. Everybody has facts. Don't like I'm going to be inundated with one. Everyone has fucking tons of facts. But what are the fucking facts? But what's real? Exactly.

It does. Look, it could be a strategy. There's a strategy on both sides for sure. But it's just like it's so fucked up to try to find the facts on this stuff. Right. Everybody has facts. Don't like I'm going to be inundated with one. Everyone has fucking tons of facts. But what are the fucking facts? But what's real? Exactly.

It does. Look, it could be a strategy. There's a strategy on both sides for sure. But it's just like it's so fucked up to try to find the facts on this stuff. Right. Everybody has facts. Don't like I'm going to be inundated with one. Everyone has fucking tons of facts. But what are the fucking facts? But what's real? Exactly.

What are the facts? And that's what I want to do on the podcast. And sometimes you get there and sometimes you don't. And immigration obviously being a very interesting one, and I'm going to continue on it because I'm like, it's not satisfactory. Although maybe that's just the answer. The answer is it's such a fucking huge and confusing issue.

What are the facts? And that's what I want to do on the podcast. And sometimes you get there and sometimes you don't. And immigration obviously being a very interesting one, and I'm going to continue on it because I'm like, it's not satisfactory. Although maybe that's just the answer. The answer is it's such a fucking huge and confusing issue.

What are the facts? And that's what I want to do on the podcast. And sometimes you get there and sometimes you don't. And immigration obviously being a very interesting one, and I'm going to continue on it because I'm like, it's not satisfactory. Although maybe that's just the answer. The answer is it's such a fucking huge and confusing issue.

Yes. Immigration, as it's being run right now, is a fucking catastrophe. I think we can agree on that. And it has to be fixed.

Yes. Immigration, as it's being run right now, is a fucking catastrophe. I think we can agree on that. And it has to be fixed.

Yes. Immigration, as it's being run right now, is a fucking catastrophe. I think we can agree on that. And it has to be fixed.

But how do you fucking fix it if nobody, if it's become so political, and you can get into COVID on this exact same problem. It's become so political that there's no fucking root basis in truth. And people believe on one side this thing and believe on the other side this thing. And fucking nobody's going to meet him in the middle. And you're like, well, what the fuck?

But how do you fucking fix it if nobody, if it's become so political, and you can get into COVID on this exact same problem. It's become so political that there's no fucking root basis in truth. And people believe on one side this thing and believe on the other side this thing. And fucking nobody's going to meet him in the middle. And you're like, well, what the fuck?

But how do you fucking fix it if nobody, if it's become so political, and you can get into COVID on this exact same problem. It's become so political that there's no fucking root basis in truth. And people believe on one side this thing and believe on the other side this thing. And fucking nobody's going to meet him in the middle. And you're like, well, what the fuck?

It is, because it's become so big, it is informing policy. I mean, on both sides. Because if you look at what gets adopted as narrative, then the narrative is being written on social media. It's not being written by traditional news. Right. And so... Fine. That's why I'm like, hold on a second. I'm fascinated by this shit. You're fascinated by it.

It is, because it's become so big, it is informing policy. I mean, on both sides. Because if you look at what gets adopted as narrative, then the narrative is being written on social media. It's not being written by traditional news. Right. And so... Fine. That's why I'm like, hold on a second. I'm fascinated by this shit. You're fascinated by it.

It is, because it's become so big, it is informing policy. I mean, on both sides. Because if you look at what gets adopted as narrative, then the narrative is being written on social media. It's not being written by traditional news. Right. And so... Fine. That's why I'm like, hold on a second. I'm fascinated by this shit. You're fascinated by it.