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Shankar Vedantam

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Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Instead, it was the Americans who fell in love with Alfred Binet's test.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

And they used it to measure the very thing the French psychologist had warned against.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

They used it to assess intelligence.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

The psychologist Lewis Terman at Stanford was among those who transformed Binet's test in the United States.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Instead of being used as a tool to direct resources to kids who needed help, he turned the test into a tracking tool to identify the gifted.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Lewis Terman drew on the work of German psychologist William Stern and helped popularize the notion of something called an intelligence quotient, what we now know today as IQ.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

So McIntosh obviously was one of the most respected researchers in the field of intelligence, but he was also genuinely open-minded and responsive and curious and not sort of dogmatic.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Can you just describe that?

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

You in some ways were coming to him

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

perhaps with an agenda that he didn't know, that your agenda was really to pull down the edifice of intelligence and intelligence testing.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

And maybe he didn't know that you were a saboteur who had just arrived at Cambridge University.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

But describe to me the way he worked and sort of the effect this had on you and the way you started thinking about the questions you were grappling with.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

I forgot.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

At one point, Nick McIntosh asked a simple question.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Assume for a moment that there is no underlying innate ability called intelligence.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Some people are good at math, others are good at reading.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

But if that was the case, he asked, why is it teachers often notice that the same students who do well at math also do well at reading?

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

What does vocabulary have in common with cognitive processes like rotating an image in the mind?

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

If verbal skills and spatial skills were just that, skills that could be learned with practice, wasn't it odd that the kids who were good at one were often also good at the other?

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Scott found himself intrigued by questions like this.