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Shankar Vedantam

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Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

What's interesting is that the story echoed what we've heard from several other listeners.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

The distress that we feel about our secrets is often wildly disproportionate to the reactions of others, including, you know, our quote-unquote victims.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Why is it that our secrets have this outsized impact on us?

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

I'm wondering if the fact that Claire kept her secret for so long in some ways amplified it in her mind.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

In other words, the longer she kept it, the more she is thinking about it, the more she's ruminating about it, and the bigger it gets in her mind.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

But of course, it's not getting bigger in anyone else's mind.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Right, right.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

So there are secrets that have to do with what we've done, but there are also secrets that get at who we are.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Here is listener Emma.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

So one thing that strikes me about Emma's story, Leslie, is that this is not about something that she did, but about who she is.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Talk about the difference between those two things when it comes to holding secrets.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Sometimes the secrets that we keep are so at odds with the person who we want to be, it can be very difficult to bear.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Here's a message we received from a listener named Dean.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

So Leslie, I can really hear the pain in Dean's voice.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

He used the word shameful to describe his secret.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

And this is a recurring theme that we heard and that you've explored.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

And a central reason, I think, that we try and keep things from others, we're worried about how they will judge us if we come clean.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

One of the things that I think is interesting about secrets is why we're keeping them.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Are we keeping them in our interest or are we keeping them in the interest of someone else?