Shankar Vedantam

Mark, we talked about how nature can help us when we are depressed or stressed or grieving.

We also heard from listeners with thoughts about our cultural and philosophical views on nature.

One of those messages came from Lisa.

She's from Canada, and she shared the perspective of her indigenous culture, the Métis people.

What do you think of this framing, Mark?

We often use the phrase the natural world to describe what it's like to be in the woods or by the ocean.

There is something natural about being in nature.

As Lisa says, we are one with it and it is one with us.

We received a message from a listener named Allison about the many ways in which we imbue nature with human qualities.

When my husband died in 2011, I was driving back and forth to work after that.

And immediately the first thing that I noticed was how prominent the mountains became in

And I had like San Gorgonio on one side, Mount Baldy's on the other side.

I think there's even San Jacinto.

So there's three different mountain ranges.

And as I would drive to work, I would pass by the different views of each different mountain range.

And the mountains became personified and they stood for stability and strength.

And they, I'm sure, you know, I animated them in my intense sorrow at the time.

And so they made me feel like I, you know, was going to be okay.

Talk a moment about this, Mark.

We don't see a lake as just a body of water.