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Shankar Vedantam

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Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Scott Barry Kaufman desperately wanted to be seen as a smart kid.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

But everyone kept telling him he was the opposite of smart.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

He ended up repeating third grade, was sent to a school for kids with learning differences, and scored poorly on IQ tests.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Scott didn't just experience these things as setbacks.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

He found them confusing.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

He thought of himself as a smart kid with lots of potential.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Why didn't the world see him that way?

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

At one point, though, when Scott was in high school, a new teacher noticed that he looked bored in the special ed resource room.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Scott felt like he had been trying for years to tell people he had potential.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Suddenly, there was someone else who could see the same thing.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Scott was allowed to leave special ed on a trial basis.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

The effect of someone believing in him was transformative.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

And it's almost like this one teacher in this one moment, it was almost like a light bulb going off in your head, it sounds like.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

One day, he was hanging out with friends after school.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

Oh, yeah.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

So you graduate high school and you still want to become a psychologist.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

You decide that you want to go to Carnegie Mellon.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

It's a college in your home state.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

It has a strong program in cognitive psychology.

Hidden Brain
Why You're Smarter Than You Think

So you take the SAT.