Shannon Miller

Hi, David.

Thank you for having me back.

So what happened was these two cashier's checks were ready to be issued from the bank and they had been paused by the bank.

The sons were notified and the sons immediately opened an emergency guardianship here in Florida to try and shut these monies down.

We got the guardianship open.

The court orders went over to the bank to stop those monies from being funded through these cashier checks.

But it was a day too late.

What Florida created a couple of years ago was this new process related to scams, where if we don't know who that person is because they're not real, what we're able to do is we go into court, and instead of the police officer knocking on their door to serve them with notice of the hearing, we are allowed to use the same communication technique

that they have been using to communicate with our victim.

So in that first case, it would be using the millionaire match text to text them the final order that says, hey, you need to show up for this hearing to explain why you should be able to keep these assets.

And, of course, they don't show up because they're a scammer.

And, you know, they also don't show up normally to assert that the bank account that has now been frozen is actually their money or legitimate money.

That's right.

That's right.

And let me just add another layer.

The latest tool that we've been using in Florida relates to a crypto scam that exceeds $10,000.

So if someone has given cryptocurrency to

to someone and that scammer places the funds in a wallet, we have been able to use a tool through the Attorney General's office in Florida to find that wallet and freeze the wallet using federal seizure laws.

And so what is happening is we are actually

recovering more than the value of the victim's claim because the monies that are also in that wallet, that then becomes resources after a certain time period passes where the attorney general's office can then turn that into tools that we can use to find scammers and also to educate the public about some of these issues that exist.