Shante Joseph

I also have a story about West Elm Caleb.

So there is no sort of illusion around the fantasy anymore.

And so I think that has gripped a lot of people.

Yeah, yeah.

I would say a lot of women initially responded to this piece thinking it was about me pitting women against other women.

Yeah.

And this was idea of like, you're not standing in solidarity with other women.

You know, this is also part of the problem.

And I had to really stress to them, this isn't necessarily about you guys.

I'm not saying that you're doing something wrong or there's something wrong with you or your relationship is wrong.

But I'm saying that there is a way that men have been allowed to behave and act in society for so long that has only gotten worse.

And I did understand how it could initially read like that, feeling as if, you know, people were...

being shamed, this idea that I hate love or I'm shaming people for finding love.

I think that it's the opposite.

I love love.

I think it's wonderful.

And, you know, obviously there was a lot of kind of hateful abuse, a lot of racist abuse, men talking about like the way that they'd want to see me abused and die.

And, you know, it was really awful.

And I think I definitely struck a

a nerve particularly with men because i thoroughly believe that this emotional space this sort of dating space feels like the last place that they can really have true domination when women are more educated than men you know we are working jobs we're running our households like the family the work these are spaces that men predominantly had like huge amounts of power over and i think they are losing a lot of that and so i think it just it was this sort of like feeling like they're losing that made them really scramble