Sharyl Attkisson

And then, yeah, never worked on 60 Minutes.

I do.

I mean, Scott Pelley was not a popular anchor in terms of his skill as an anchor, as well as his personality.

And I can't explain why he persisted in the chair for some years anyway, because, gosh, quite a while before they removed him, I was told by a level above David Rhodes that they were trying to fix what they call the Scott Pelley problem.

And I don't know what keeps somebody in place when they think there's an issue.

But one of the issues they had with him was, as it was told to me, he takes his managing editor role too seriously.

He was interfering with the correspondent's stories in a way that was not productive.

And the veterans were complaining.

And longtime CBS names that you would recognize were complaining to the high executives about this.

My experience was when they named him, I was told by higher-ups,

This new show without Katie Couric with Scott Pelley is going to be all about what you do, your investigative reporting, even more so.

I was already having a great career there, but they said, now with Scott Pelley there, boy, this show is going to be all about what you do.

And the very first week, the very first investigative piece, one of the best ones I think I ever did, that I offered them, he censored, never aired.

And that was the pattern and the story, for me at least, of Scott Pelley at the anchor desk.

No, Boeing was one of it.

That came later.

The first one was a story at Expose I did on the travel group called People to People that, as it turns out, was luring high school students into, it was nothing more than a travel agency out of the auspices of a nonprofit using the Dwight Eisenhower name and his daughter or granddaughter's reputation to

to convince children in high school that they had been chosen to be ambassadors on these amazing global trips when, in fact, they were just using lists.

These kids weren't honored or nominated by their teachers, as they claimed, and they were getting kids to go on these trips, and the kids were getting injured.

Some of them were getting killed.