Shawn Johnson East

Okay.

Special forces.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yes.

You have to do it.

I have a reason for you to do it.

Because at the beginning of this podcast, you're talking about how your baseline is like imposter syndrome.

You have to prove yourself.

You always have to work.

Those four guys who are actual Navy SEALs, and that's why I did it.

There are crippling foundational things about us, especially people driven like us, that they see on day one and they literally heal.

It is wild.

Yeah, being tortured and doing all that stuff, I'm not saying that's fun, but their psychological ability to pull out your vulnerability in you and in such raw moments show you parts of yourself that are so...

much better than you ever imagined it was really therapeutic would it have been as therapeutic if you hadn't won yeah

It did not drive him crazy that I won.

It drove him crazy that he did not win with me.

He is like a human golden retriever, and he just sucks at lying, which is such a beautiful quality about someone.

I still think he should have won.

We all were terrible liars.