Shawn Livermore

i am thanks for having me nathan yeah man thanks for coming on i appreciate it so okay tell us first zip task that's the company tell us what it did and how you generated two million bucks in revenue right so zip task is uh fully managed outsourcing i think is the last tagline we went with and it was essentially a progressive effort to try to fix the problem and the problem was that when you try to outsource technology projects it just sucks it always breaks

You know, you have to deal with folks that are living in all sorts of places in the world with dirt floors sometimes, and they have language barriers and all sorts of economical issues there that they're trying to scrap together, you know, ends meet and put a sort of a career together from nothing.

And you have an American business trying to outsource technology projects, trying to save a buck.

And so a vast amount of dynamics is happening between those two parties.

And we tried to really solve that problem.

It was a very painful problem, actually.

People really pull their hair out trying to get someone to develop software for them on the cheap.

And so that was the goal of the company.

And we succeeded in the goal, but we failed as a company.

So we raised four seed rounds.

First total, I think, came up to about $650,000.

I mean, this was quite an endeavor.

I would say I've lost so much sleep and I've invested thousands of hours of my life into this thing.

Me and about 30 other total people, I mean, it was really difficult.

And I would...

Totally.

My heart goes out to all those entrepreneurs out there who are pounding their head against the wall at two in the morning, you know, trying to write code and wake up the next day and drive into work and, you know, pay their bills.

I really can feel their pain because that's pretty much what we did.

Well, as a technology consultant, you know, I'd have my day job clients and I'd drive into Irvine from Corona.

So Southern California here, the freeway system is one of the worst in the world.