Shawn Livermore

Yeah.

So anyway, 2010, the process came to a point where I had not gathered enough data about the real scenarios that are happening and not done enough validation on the business model.

And so I launched prematurely and put something out there.

that I was excited about.

It was a learning process for myself.

And then I went to partner up with a great designer, Jeff Sherwood, who we can link to.

He did a great job for us, putting together really fantastic designs on each of the different pivots.

And so co-founded there, but really needed kind of some additional co-founding friends that I didn't have at the time to help with sales and more of a growth strategic model.

But learned my lesson on that.

Then we pivoted

In 2012, I raised $200,000 from an angel investor at the Pasadena Angels, who later, his name was Stan, and he later jumped in as an actual co-founder to kind of help us get the thing off the ground.

And then we did a couple thousand dollars of revenue in that pivot, and we moved from any sort of task, like move a couch or build a sandwich or write a document or write code or whatever it might be, into a very strategic niche task.

which was like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, you know, sales guys hop on the plane.

By the time they land, the PowerPoint is done, right?

It's the idea, all mobile.

But that, you know, despite doing a couple grand in revenue there just to kind of prove the basis for the business model, that really wasn't well-founded because a variety of reasons, you know,

but to some of the reasons, the idea is simply that it's not that simple.

You can't just expect someone to develop a great.

I tried.

I tried many times.