Shawn Ryan

How can you help with that as the researcher?

And I love that type of question.

I love thinking about, like, how we can position ourselves to collaborate more with, like, tech companies for, like, AI for physics or things like that.

And I don't think that question is as meaningful if you're at another university because, you know, that university doesn't care about theoretical physics.

They can change their mind on who they hire later in the commuter over time.

And sure, there's probably awesome, like, CS departments at places.

But, like, you know, like, you can really focus on a thing when it's your whole mission.

And I love that about AI.

I'm excited.

I'm sorry.

Like, I used to be more – so, like, again, I think my opinion – at least I'm happy that my opinion can change.

I feel like that's a positive thing.

But, like, I was definitely more, like, jaded by, oh, people oversell things.

And, like, what if they oversell things too much to the extent where then it hurts the – like, it's not –

Like there is value to expertise that I think that sometimes people overcorrect on things and they don't trust like science and stuff like that, right?

So like how do you...

engage with like like hard conversations of like where is this field going or things like that without throwing the baby out with the bathwater or like making it hard to to like collaborate so i used to be more like oh no they're gonna say they're gonna do all these things i know that my heroes kind of liked physics so is it gonna be like that like the guys with the funding get access to all the data start making some claims of theories and then like like i

we don't know enough to be able to tell them why they're wrong, yada, yada.

The route that ended up happening instead is more like, oh, we're going to take the top people in the field, not like the Harvard professors, not me, and just work with them and collaborate with them first.

It's a funny reputation thing.