Shawn Ryan

So they would see the tracks afterwards.

So that's the funny thing too, is like, you're not actually seeing, like, you don't see the Higgs boson.

You're seeing like the fact that the things that came afterwards are consistent with it being there.

And I think that that was the kind of funny thing too, again, very silly, but maybe visceral in the sense of like,

you're not actually seeing the thing, you're inferring the thing.

Versus like for gravitational waves, it really is like a, it's a sound wave where they're seeing the, you know, the mirrors move apart.

And that's kind of fun.

It's fun when it's the, they're just, they're actually seeing the thing they're saying they're seeing instead of indirectly inferring the thing.

Post-processing is.

To each their own.

I think that, sorry, you know, what it means in some sense is like you've tested a particular theory.

And so you're kind of ruling out some parameter space of, okay, there's no super partners or things like that too.

Or we understand this Higgins mechanism.

So basically, I think that at some point, a lot of people were looking for extra particles that would come if there was this symmetry-relating fermions and bosons.

So things that want to be apart from one another.

You only want to fill one in each state versus things that like to kind of...

cohere or amplify each other.

That's a bad analogy.

But there's two types of particles, integer spin and half integer spin.

And some people were trying to conjecture that when you build these colliders, you're going to see more and more particles.