Shawn Ryan

Yeah, I mean, these things are fun, but it's always fun that you can, you probably find a way to find a cool little way to frame what happens or not.

But the Hawking's thing was cool because, again, he, you know, he visited at the end of, like, near the end of his life.

He was, he came to Harvard, which was neat to see, just the entourage.

We were, like, we were on a Congo line in this boat, like, kind of like those, like, little river cruise type of thing, but in the Boston Harbor that was, like, hawking his whole entourage.

And I was, like, literally doing, like, a little Congo line behind him.

And, like, I mean, you can't, you can't.

I can't make that up.

It's a fun experience.

I don't think it means that.

I mean, it means I'm lucky that something experimental is going to come out of something I did maybe.

I don't think the things that I've done have that deep of a meaning or something where everyone should know these types of things necessarily.

It's more like the fact that there is some value of trying to

take these frameworks that are very abstract and try to distill parts of it that then you can try to then push for the more realistic versions of it.

I think that's a fun kind of paradigm and it's like fortunate that there was some observables of this.

But at the same time, like I'm using Einstein's equations to get it.

It's more of a test of like the boundary conditions being a good physical assumption than a test of the theory itself, right?

So I think that...

it's not like super, super exciting to me, but like, it's not like, you know, I wouldn't say tell your audience is important or anything like that.

Lots of things are cool though.

Lots of things in this building are pretty cool, so.