Shawn Ryan

And he's one of these, like, you know, tech entrepreneur physics fans.

So, like, I mean, obviously, like, he kind of ahead of his time with the smartphone type of thing, was an engineer, awesome engineer, and then, like, liked physics, then put a lot of money into a physics institute.

I'm not sure.

Like, I mean...

like you have to be a fun kind of, I don't know if it's a brilliant idea or a silly idea, but it's definitely good for the physicists.

So what I love about it is that it's like a research institution that's like a private public partnership.

So like his money is highly leveraged and like the Canadian government supports it of just for theoretical physics.

And so it's neat because you can imagine, you know, if you cared about the product, you care about research,

Having something where the whole institution is dedicated to that is a very different vibe than, again, like a university where you're pooling your eight auditoriums or your dorms or things like that.

And it's all these different research directions that are together sharing some resources.

And you're kind of like cross-sectioning the field.

And then it's the reputation of that place that draws some talent in or not.

I think there is value to this kind of cross-sectioning research by the product or by the discipline.

And Perimeter is an instantiation of that, but with the downside of it being in just one place in Waterloo, Ontario, where his company was and things like that.

Yeah, but these packages are for research funding and things like that.

And research is, I guess, people are expensive.

So that's where these things scale and sound like fancy numbers.

But I mean, yeah.

But at Brown, it would be very much like an Ivy League professor sounds cool.

You're teaching a lot.