Shawn Ryan

So I think that's going to factor heavily on voters.

And then the MAGA issue, man, the people that were hardcore, who were small-dollar donors to President Trump and to candidates like me when I was running with his endorsement,

them not coming out or them being disenfranchised or them being, um, he endorsed one of this war.

He endorsed me twice.

Yeah.

Twice.

I think Trump just got into a, they put him in a position where he needed to say something about painting.

I think he's frustrated because I'm doing these, I'm doing these media appearances.

So he's going to fire back.

Like I just, for me, I don't take it personally.

I want him to just focus on what we're talking about and focus on getting us out of this crisis.

And then also like, like you said, for the midterms, I mean, you're going to need a lot of hardcore MAGA people to,

to come out, to knock on doors, to do that hardcore work.

Um, because working elections, it's not easy, it's not fun, it's not glamorous.

The MAGA base, Trump's base, they're hardworking people, and they got him across the finish line.

In 26, a lot of them, now it's debatable how much, but a good chunk of them are gonna have a really hard time doing that because of the way this last year has gone.

I hear that from a lot of people.

I hear that from a lot of people.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think your frustration and your anger is felt by a lot of people who voted, who campaigned.