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Shawn Wen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
320 total appearances

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Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

I remember not long after I moved here, about a decade ago, I was crossing the street and I saw a man lying face down right where the crosswalk met the sidewalk.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

So to reach the sidewalk, you had to step over his body.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

And that's what everyone at this intersection did, including me.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

We walked right past him, not knowing if he was alive or dead.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

While this kind of human suffering is not unique to San Francisco, there's something about it here that just feels different.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

It's more casual, more in your face.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

In your daily life, on your way to work, on your way to dinner, on the walk to pick up groceries, you might see someone shooting up at the BART station or sitting on the sidewalk with open sores on their legs or having a mental health episode in the middle of traffic.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

And most longtime San Franciscans would tell you, unfortunately, that's not new.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

There's research that shows that worrying about crime can become a chronic emotional state that shapes how people see the world around them.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

It can sow anxiety and mistrust, even when crime rates are stable or falling.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

The research also shows that people who worry more about crime also tend to see common nuisances as threatening.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

Things like noisy neighbors, litter, graffiti, or just visible groups of teenagers hanging out.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

To them, these are signs of social decline.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

Crime during and immediately after COVID was a nationwide conversation.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

But San Francisco especially was a hot topic.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

Bob Lee was killed during a moment when San Francisco had become a national punching bag, based on a reputation that wasn't completely inaccurate.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis flew in just to dump on the city for a campaign spot.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

After the break, the weight of this national scrutiny comes down on a few local politicians.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

We'll be right back.

Odd Lots
Presenting Foundering Season 6: The Killing of Bob Lee, Part 1

By Wednesday night, less than 48 hours after Bob was killed, city officials could see the narrative spinning out of control.